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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
MJ is the only all-time great that led team in scoring for every series of career
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[COLOR="White"]..............[/COLOR][COLOR="darkred"]And Jordan did it by an average of 15.4 PPG[/COLOR]
[COLOR="White"]..................[/COLOR]PPG for #1 scorer[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] PPG for #2 scorer[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] Difference
1985 Round 1:...... Jordan 29.3............... Woolrige 20.5.................. [COLOR="Red"]8.8[/COLOR]
1986 Round 1:...... Jordan 43.7............... Woolrige 21.0................ [COLOR="Red"]22.7[/COLOR]
1987 Round 1:...... Jordan 35.7............... C Oakley 20.0................ [COLOR="Red"]15.7[/COLOR]
1988 Round 1:...... Jordan 45.2............... C Oakley 10.8................ [COLOR="Red"]34.4[/COLOR]
1988 Round 2:...... Jordan 27.4............... C Oakley 12.8................ [COLOR="Red"]14.6[/COLOR]
1989 Round 1:...... Jordan 39.8............... S Pippen 15.0................ [COLOR="Red"]25.0[/COLOR]
1989 Round 2:...... Jordan 35.7............... S Pippen 14.8................ [COLOR="Red"]20.9[/COLOR]
1989 Round 3:...... Jordan 29.7............... C Hodges 12.0............... [COLOR="Red"]17.7[/COLOR]
1990 Round 1:...... Jordan 36.8............... S Pippen 22.5................ [COLOR="Red"]14.3[/COLOR]
1990 Round 2:...... Jordan 43.0............... S Pippen 20.8................ [COLOR="Red"]22.2[/COLOR]
1990 Round 3:...... Jordan 32.1............... S Pippen 16.6................ [COLOR="Red"]15.5[/COLOR]
1991 Round 1:...... Jordan 29.0............... S Pippen 19.7................ [COLOR="Red"]9.3[/COLOR]
1991 Round 2:...... Jordan 33.4............... S Pippen 23.4................ [COLOR="Red"]10.0[/COLOR]
1991 Round 3:...... Jordan 29.8............... S Pippen 22.0................ [COLOR="Red"]7.8[/COLOR]
1991 Round 4:...... Jordan 31.2............... S Pippen 20.8................ [COLOR="Red"]10.4[/COLOR]
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Last edited by 3ball; 05-15-2016 at 06:46 PM.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ is the only all-time great that led team in scoring for every series of career
1992 Round 1:...... Jordan 45.0............... S Pippen 24.0.............. [COLOR="Red"]21.0[/COLOR]
1992 Round 2:...... Jordan 31.3............... S Pippen 16.0.............. [COLOR="Red"]15.3[/COLOR]
1992 Round 3:...... Jordan 31.7............... S Pippen 19.8.............. [COLOR="Red"]11.9[/COLOR]
1992 Round 4:...... Jordan 35.8............... S Pippen 20.8.............. [COLOR="Red"]15.0[/COLOR]
1993 Round 1:...... Jordan 34.3............... S Pippen 15.3.............. [COLOR="Red"]19.0[/COLOR]
1993 Round 2:...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 18.3.............. [COLOR="Red"]12.7[/COLOR]
1993 Round 3:...... Jordan 32.2............... S Pippen 22.5.............. [COLOR="Red"]9.8[/COLOR]
1993 Round 4:...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 21.2.............. [COLOR="Red"]19.8[/COLOR]
1995 Round 1:...... Jordan 32.3............... T Kukocs 17.3.............. [COLOR="Red"]15.0[/COLOR]
1995 Round 2:...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 19.0.............. [COLOR="Red"]12.0[/COLOR]
1996 Round 1:...... Jordan 30.0............... S Pippen 19.7.............. [COLOR="Red"]10.3[/COLOR]
1996 Round 2:...... Jordan 36.0............... S Pippen 15.6.............. [COLOR="Red"]20.4[/COLOR]
1996 Round 3:...... Jordan 29.5............... S Pippen 18.5.............. [COLOR="Red"]11.0[/COLOR]
1996 Round 4:...... Jordan 27.3............... S Pippen 15.7.............. [COLOR="Red"]11.6[/COLOR]
1997 Round 1:...... Jordan 37.3............... S Pippen 16.7.............. [COLOR="Red"]20.6[/COLOR]
1997 Round 2:...... Jordan 26.6............... S Pippen 22.2.............. [COLOR="Red"]4.4[/COLOR]
1997 Round 3:...... Jordan 30.2............... S Pippen 16.8.............. [COLOR="Red"]17.4[/COLOR]
1997 Round 4:...... Jordan 32.3............... S Pippen 20.0.............. [COLOR="Red"]12.3[/COLOR]
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Last edited by 3ball; 05-15-2016 at 06:49 PM.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ is the only all-time great that led team in scoring for every series of career
1998 Round 1:...... Jordan 36.3............... S Pippen 18.0.............. [COLOR="Red"]18.3[/COLOR]
1998 Round 2:...... Jordan 29.6............... S Pippen 17.8.............. [COLOR="Red"]11.8[/COLOR]
1998 Round 3:...... Jordan 31.7............... S Pippen 16.6.............. [COLOR="Red"]15.1
[/COLOR]1998 Round 3:...... Jordan 33.5............... S Pippen 15.7.............. [COLOR="Red"]17.8[/COLOR]
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[COLOR="White"].................................................. ........................[/COLOR][COLOR="DarkGreen"]15.4 average difference[/COLOR]
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ is the only all-time great that led team in scoring for every series of career
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: MJ is the only all-time great that led team in scoring for every series of career
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ is the only all-time great that led team in scoring for every series of career
Originally Posted by oarabbus
MichaeL Jordan, ladies and gentlemen
Jordan was involved in MORE possessions for his team (usage), while producing more per-possession (ORtg) - he simply DID MORE:
1991 vs. 2016:
[COLOR="DarkRed"]JORDAN REG SEASON[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 32.9% Usage.. 125 ORtg
[COLOR="Navy"]CURRY[COLOR="White"]4[/COLOR] REG SEASON[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"]4[/COLOR] 32.6% Usage.. 125 ORtg
Career
[COLOR="DarkRed"]JORDAN REG SEASON[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 33.3% Usage.. 118 ORtg
[COLOR="Navy"]CURRY[COLOR="White"]4[/COLOR] REG SEASON[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"]4[/COLOR] 26.9% Usage.. 117 ORtg
[COLOR="DarkRed"]JORDAN PLAYOFF[/COLOR]S:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 35.6% Usage.. 118 ORtg
[COLOR="Navy"]CURRY[COLOR="White"]4[/COLOR] PLAYOFFS[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"]4[/COLOR] 28.2% Usage.. 115 ORtg
Jordan gave his team MORE (possessions) of a GOOD THING (per possession efficiency)...
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Last edited by 3ball; 05-15-2016 at 08:12 PM.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ is the only all-time great that led team in scoring for every series of career
Can't believe Hodges outscored Pippen in 89.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ is the only all-time great that led team in scoring for every series of career
Originally Posted by oarabbus
MJ is good, but he sure as hell ain't no Steph Curry.
Jordan's 1991 was on another level:
Per 100 Possessions
[COLOR="DarkRed"]JORDAN 1991 RS: 42.7 pts.. 8.1 reb..[COLOR="White"]4[/COLOR] 7.5 ast.. 3.3 tov.. 3.7 stl.. 1.4 blk.. 60.4 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.6 PER.. 0.321 WS/48[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Navy"]CURRY [COLOR="White"]4[/COLOR] 2016 RS: 42.5 pts.. 7.7 reb..[COLOR="White"]4[/COLOR] 9.4 ast.. 4.7 tov.. 3.0 stl.. 0.3 blk.. 66.9 ts.. 125 ORtg.. 31.5 PER.. 0.318 WS/48[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]JORDAN 1991 PO: 41.8 pts.. 8.5 reb.. 11.2 ast.. 3.4 tov.. 3.2 stl.. 1.8 blk.. 60.0 ts.. 127 ORtg.. 32.0 PER.. 0.333 WS/48[/COLOR]
Jordan had higher points-per-possessions (ORtg) and Player Efficiency Rating, even though Curry's efficiency was boosted by carrying a smaller load: Jordan produced a higher proportion of his team's points and assists with less turnovers, while also carrying a larger load on defense.
Ultimately, Jordan achieved the highest honor (winning championship and FMVP), while carrying a bigger load on both ends and having higher efficiency per possession - that covers all the bases.
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Last edited by 3ball; 05-15-2016 at 08:12 PM.
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3-time NBA All-Star
Re: MJ is the only all-time great that led team in scoring for every series of career
MJ is good, but he sure as hell ain't no Steph Curry.
I'd draft MJ 3rd after Curry and Shaq, I'll give him that much.
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NBA Legend
Re: MJ is the only all-time great that led team in scoring for every series of career
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ is the only all-time great that led team in scoring for every series of career
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
[COLOR="Red"]Curry spaces the floor
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Jordan's spaces the floor more - when a dangerous rim attacker is on the floor, ALL defenders must cheat off their man (see Isiah Thomas above), which leaves 3-point shooters and other teammates more open than otherwise.. This is basketball 101.
Otoh, 3-point shooters only cause a single defender to hug them on the perimeter, which doesn't do shit BY ITSELF - it takes the entire Warrior team shooting 3-pointers TOGETHER to provide floor-spacing.
Essentially, 3-point shooters need teammates to help them space the floor, whereas a single rim attacker frees up teammates for open shots all by themselves, by forcing the entire defense to cheat off their man.
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Last edited by 3ball; 05-15-2016 at 08:12 PM.
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3-time NBA All-Star
Re: MJ is the only all-time great that led team in scoring for every series of career
Originally Posted by 3ball
Jordan had higher points-per-possessions (ORtg) and Player Efficiency Rating, even though Curry's efficiency was boosted by carrying a smaller load: Jordan produced a higher proportion of his team's points and assists with less turnovers in 1991, 1996 and for his career overall, while also carrying a larger load on defense.
Ultimately, Jordan achieved the highest honor (winning championship and FMVP), while carrying a bigger load on both ends and having higher efficiency per possession - that covers all the bases.
Fails the eye test vs. Curry
Fails the eye test vs. Shaq
MichaeL Jordan, ladies and gentlemen
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NBA Legend
Re: MJ is the only all-time great that led team in scoring for every series of career
Originally Posted by oarabbus
Fails the eye test vs. Curry
Fails the eye test vs. Shaq
MichaeL Jordan, ladies and gentlemen
L standing for load right? Michael LOAD Jordan.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ is the only all-time great that led team in scoring for every series of career
Originally Posted by Smoke117
Curry > MJ
This is Curry's first season as the NBA's best offensive player.. He has 10 more (in a row) to match Jordan.
Remember - Jordan led the Bulls in passing too - he led the Bulls in assist percentage for both 3-peats.
Accordingly, Jordan's goat scoring load (as shown in the OP), team-leading passing, and best-ever defense at his position is the goat performance and overall burden - Curry's performance is a joke by comparison..
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Last edited by 3ball; 05-15-2016 at 08:12 PM.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ is the only all-time great that led team in scoring for every series of career
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