Revisiting 2011

[CuhGetsBucks]

Moe yall don't get tired of talking about the same shit everyday?

[SamuraiSWISH]

Wade had just put up MVP caliber seasons back to back, and then in 2011 was a top 3 player along with LeBron, and D-Rose.

That's why James went to South Beach.

That Miami team was top heavy, but loaded with 3 superstars all in their prime.

[Big164]

Just in this Finals alone LeBron became the first player to

1. Lead a 3-1 comeback in Finals history
2. Defeat a 70 win team
3. Lead BOTH teams in every statistical category

He did this while surpassing Wilt in titles & Kobe in FMVP's

He also tied the record for most turnovers in a finals series.

LeBron is really good, ok. But he is not Earth shattering like Wilt or a Ring king like Kobe/MJ. He's just really good. And nothing wrong with that but know your plac, son.

[SouBeachTalents]

He also tied the record for most turnovers in a finals series.

LeBron is really good, ok. But he is not Earth shattering like Wilt or a Ring king like Kobe/MJ. He's just really good. And nothing wrong with that but know your plac, son.

How is Kobe more "earth shattering" than LeBron when LeBron has more MVP's/FMVP's and better regular season, postseason, and Finals stats? Two extra rings he wasn't even his teams best player for while playing with the best player in the world is enough to supersede all those significant advantages LeBron has?

[ShawkFactory]

You're such a waste of time

[Smoke117]

Wade had just put up MVP caliber seasons back to back, and then in 2011 was a top 3 player along with LeBron, and D-Rose.

That's why James went to South Beach.

That Miami team was top heavy, but loaded with 3 superstars all in their prime.

[Big164]

How is Kobe more "earth shattering" than LeBron when LeBron has more MVP's/FMVP's and better regular season, postseason, and Finals stats? Two extra rings he wasn't even his teams best player for while playing with the best player in the world is enough to supersede all those significant advantages LeBron has?

Kobe won rings against teams that absolutely destroyed Lebron: spurs, magic celtics. Kobe is just better in the Finals and I'm not even counting the shaq years

[SamuraiSWISH]

Who was better in that individual season?

Howard?



One dimensional Dirk?



Gassed Kobe? CP3? Durant?

[Smoke117]

Who was better in that individual season?

Howard?



One dimensional Dirk?



Gassed Kobe? CP3? Durant?

Howard...the guy who he stole the MVP was easily better with a much larger impact on his team...the number 1 option offensively while being the best defensive player in the world. Most people don't even have Rose in the top 5 this year...but top 3 and over Dwight? That's just laughable nonsense that only you and that idiot nathanjizzle could come up with. Are you just completely incapable of being objective?

[SamuraiSWISH]

Howard...the guy who he stole the MVP was easily better with a much larger impact on his team...the number 1 option offensively while being the best defensive player in the world. Most people don't even have Rose in the top 5 this year...but top 3 and over Dwight? That's just laughable nonsense that only you and that idiot nathanjizzle could come up with. Are you just completely incapable of being objective?

He produced a whopping 10 less wins and had far less takeover ability. D-Rose at times was willing his team to victory.

With a cast that features, who exactly? A Boozer and Noah who all missed at least third of the season? In Carlos case, a guy whose numbers went down each ensuing month of the season. And a rookie head coach.

I remember D-12 trying to injure Derrick every meeting they had, back when Rose was absolutely fearless attacking the rim. Guy is a loser, and a coward.

Derrick had the overwhelming number of votes for a reason.

LeBron was hated. Split votes with a teammate who produced nearly as much in every category. The cost of needing to team up with a player as great as you in order to win.

Meanwhile Kobe was gassed after 3 straight Finals, back to back chips, and back to back summers for Team USA. And was still carrying a bum ass Paula Gasoft appearance all season.

[TheWinningFam]

Kobe won rings against teams that absolutely destroyed Lebron: spurs, magic celtics. Kobe is just better in the Finals and I'm not even counting the shaq years

Shooting 6/24 in game 7 and he's better? Fvck outta here

[SamuraiSWISH]

Shooting 6/24 in game 7 and he's better? Fvck outta here

LeBron didn't shoot well in this year's game 7 either, Jack.

Plus Kobe was older, and was facing a vastly superior team defense under visibly more physical conditions. Plus everyone shot poorly in that game 7. Everyone.

Kobe still did the dirty work to win.

And he didn't have someone with the gravity on offense to make huge testicle shots like Kyrie Irving. If we are truly being fair.

[Big164]

Kyrie > gasol

I put that on my religion and everything.

[JT123]

Kyrie > gasol

Sorry, but bigs are ALWAYS more valuable than guards.

[aj1987]

LeBron didn't shoot well in this year's game 7 either, Jack.

Plus Kobe was older, and was facing a vastly superior team defense under visibly more physical conditions. Plus everyone shot poorly in that game 7. Everyone.

Kobe still did the dirty work to win.

And he didn't have someone with the gravity on offense to make huge testicle shots like Kyrie Irving. If we are truly being fair.

Are you sure that you watched Game 7? LeBron scored 11 points in the 4th. By FAR the MOST on either team. The Warriors were up 4 with like 5 minutes to go and with all the momentum. LeBron scored 6 straight points, killing the momentum and giving the Cavs a 2 point lead. Then, with like a minute left, Iggy was about to score and give the Warriors a 2 point lead, and LeBron blocked that shot. Kobe scored 10 points in the 4th Q in '10, of which 8 came from FT's. He was 1-4 in the 4th Q.

LeBron also put up 27/11/11 with 2 steals and 3 blocks on 48% TS in that game. Kobe had 2 assists and 4 TOV's while putting up 23/15/2/1 on 38% TS. Significantly worse than LeBron. Lets also not forget Artest's shot.

Kobe was 31 and 298 days and LeBron was 31 and 172 days. Kobe was older by a whooping 4 months.