Rookie of the Year Tiers:

[BigKAT]

*I'll put some that were devestated by injuries, try to look at them as the ROY, and not their careers right now

I'll go with recent ones, you guys feel free to fill the rest or put out your own list entierly.

The names are in no particular order:

Franchise Players: (Trasncendent Talent)
Karl Anthony Towns
Kevin Durant
Lebron James
Derrick Rose
Chris Paul

Future Star: (Would've won ROY in many drafts)
Kyrie Irving
Damian Lillard
Blake Griffin
Brandon Roy
Tyreke Evans (When he won ROY he was.)

Gems in the Mud (Won ROY, their competition was less then stellar)
Andrew Wiggins
Emeka Okafor



Big Fish in a Small Pond:
Michael Carter Williams
Mike Miller

[swagga]

*I'll put some that were devestated by injuries, try to look at them as the ROY, and not their careers right now

I'll go with recent ones, you guys feel free to fill the rest or put out your own list entierly.

The names are in no particular order:

Franchise Players: (Trasncendent Talent)
Karl Anthony Towns
Kevin Durant
Lebron James
Derrick Rose
Chris Paul

Future Star: (Would've won ROY in many drafts)
Kyrie Irving
Damian Lillard
Blake Griffin
Brandon Roy
Tyreke Evans (When he won ROY he was.)

Gems in the Mud (Won ROY, their competition was less then stellar)
Andrew Wiggins
Emeka Okafor



Big Fish in a Small Pond:
Michael Carter Williams
Mike Miller

tyreke should be a tier lower.
mike miller > okafor.
blake griffin's rookie season was better than his tier.
no melo who had a rookie season comparable to lebron.

[BigKAT]

tyreke should be a tier lower.
mike miller > okafor.
blake griffin's rookie season was better than his tier.
no melo who had a rookie season comparable to lebron.

Well, great as he was, he did not win ROY.

[Gatorade Sax]

Came here to say Melo's was pretty decent too. Strong contributor from the get go on a team that made the playoffs.

Trying to think of rookies that started slowly but had great finishes to their rookie season. Be that due to an injury to a player ahead of them, or purely gaining the faith of the coach as the season wore on.

[Ca$H]

2016 ROY:

Patrick McCaw- future GOAT tier.

[Smoke117]

Puting KAT in that tier with those guys after his rookie season...

[Kool Boy]

Tyreke above Roy iMO

[CuhGetsBucks]

Andrew Wiggins just put up near 21 ppg in his second season and we talking about his competition not being good enough

[BigKAT]

Andrew Wiggins just put up near 21 ppg in his second season and we talking about his competition not being good enough

Did you follow the Rookie of the Year race in 14'?

At one point the lead candidate was a 13 PPG guy before he tore his ACL. (Parker)

The only real competiton Wiggins had was a Mirotic, who only started seeing minutes in the season's last 30 games or so.

What competition was there?
Elfrid Payton?

I love Wiggins.
I think he's Teen-Wolf incarnate.
But on his ROY victory there wasn't much competition,

Unlike KAT who outperformed Porzingis, it felt like we were robbed of a good Parker Vs Wiggins Duel in that race. (I'll still give it to wiggs.)

[bobopenguin]

where's anthony davis?

[CuhGetsBucks]

Did you follow the Rookie of the Year race in 14'?

At one point the lead candidate was a 13 PPG guy before he tore his ACL. (Parker)

The only real competiton Wiggins had was a Mirotic, who only started seeing minutes in the season's last 30 games or so.

What competition was there?
Elfrid Payton?

I love Wiggins.
I think he's Teen-Wolf incarnate.
But on his ROY victory there wasn't much competition,

Unlike KAT who outperformed Porzingis, it felt like we were robbed of a good Parker Vs Wiggins Duel in that race. (I'll still give it to wiggs.)

Then enlighten me to who Chris Paul had to out perform to win ROY, Charlie V? Channing Frye? The tiers are not consistent. I don't understand this, why compare a rookie's performance and neg him for the performance of the other rookies. It's not like the rookies compete against each other every night.

[BigKAT]

Then enlighten me to who Chris Paul had to out perform to win ROY, Charlie V? Channing Frye? The tiers are not consistent. I don't understand this, why compare a rookie's performance and neg him for the performance of the other rookies. It's not like the rookies compete against each other every night.

I'll explain what I mean my friend,

Lebron James would likely win ROY in 80%-95% of the Drafts you put him in.
(Loses to MJ, David Robinson off the top of my head)

Michael Carter Williams likely does not win ROY in 80% of the drafts you put him in, or even 90%.

That's why I take competition into account.
Chris Paul would win in many drafts, Wiggins might not, since his scoring output (16.9) and his W total (Last in the league) and his lack of Rebounding and Passing (Absymal) might not be enough to win over past ROY winners, or even Past ROY 2nd places (Melo and Hakeem off the top of my head)

[bobopenguin]

I'll explain what I mean my friend,

Lebron James would likely win ROY in 80%-95% of the Drafts you put him in.
(Loses to MJ, David Robinson off the top of my head)

Michael Carter Williams likely does not win ROY in 80% of the drafts you put him in, or even 90%.

That's why I take competition into account.
Chris Paul would win in many drafts, Wiggins might not, since his scoring output (16.9) and his W total (Last in the league) and his lack of Rebounding and Passing (Absymal) might not be enough to win over past ROY winners, or even Past ROY 2nd places (Melo and Hakeem off the top of my head)

btw, melo was the real ROY, not lebron.

[Uncle Drew]

where's anthony davis?

lmao

[ClipperRevival]

The term transcendent talent gets used too loosely. To me, the only truly transcendent talent in the last 20 years is LeBron. These guys come around every 10-15 years, before him it was Shaq. Being a great player doesn't mean you are transcendent.