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Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time
Originally Posted by 3ball
Best mid-range shooter
Most efficient handle
Best hangtime and shot making ability vs LENGTH
Best fadeaway
Best post game for non-big
Best combo leaper ever (goat-level off 1 and 2 legs)
Who am I? (the most skilled player ever)
LeBron
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Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time
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Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time
Originally Posted by 3ball
Best mid-range shooter
Most efficient handle
Best hangtime and shot making ability vs LENGTH
Best fadeaway
Best post game for non-big
Best combo leaper ever (goat-level off 1 and 2 legs)
Who am I? (the most skilled player ever)
Jordan's work ethic was very well-documented. He perfected his craft. Definitely in the elite tier of "skill", ever.
But... I think we have to realize his staggering advantages have even more to do with his supreme talent. Imho he is the most talented ball player I have ever seen. His improvisational body control, raw athletic specs, strength, quickness, hops, balance... his giant hands... he had so many natural advantages. Great skill, better/more effective player than Kobe, but imho less skilled.
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Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time
Originally Posted by Cold soul
Curry is high up there for sure but basketball is much more than just shooting you have to factor in everything.
Yeah, definitely.
He's arguably the GOAT moving without the ball.
He's mentioned in the same breath as Kyrie Irving as a ball-handler, and deservedly so.
He's a tremendous passer and playmaker, perhaps not elite but very good.
And... he isn't just a great shooter. He's the best shooter ever by A LOT. His shooting ability is transformative. People look at the game differently, play the game differently because of Steph Curry. His 35-foot shot is respected. Have you become numb to that?
The guy is the size of an average lean, athletic adult. And he had - perhaps - the greatest offensive season ever.
If you don't think he deserves a nomination as the most skilled player in history, I would love to hear your argument.
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Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time
Originally Posted by Prometheus
Yeah, definitely.
He's arguably the GOAT moving without the ball.
He's mentioned in the same breath as Kyrie Irving as a ball-handler, and deservedly so.
He's a tremendous passer and playmaker, perhaps not elite but very good.
And... he isn't just a great shooter. He's the best shooter ever by A LOT. His shooting ability is transformative. People look at the game differently, play the game differently because of Steph Curry. His 35-foot shot is respected. Have you become numb to that?
The guy is the size of an average lean, athletic adult. And he had - perhaps - the greatest offensive season ever.
If you don't think he deserves a nomination as the most skilled player in history, I would love to hear your argument.
His skills don’t translate as the stakes get higher
Being skilled means being able to dominate in all levels of the NBA, not just the regular season
He can shoot from 35 feet in the regular season but can’t make a behind the back pass in the Finals??
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Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time
[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]His skills don
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Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time
I've decided to update my list - don't know how I forgot T-Mac.
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Allen Iverson
4. Stephen Curry
5. Kevin Durant
6. Dwyane Wade
7. Chris Paul
8. LeBron James
9. Larry Bird
10. Ray Allen
11. Dirk Nowitzki
12. George Gervin
13. Reggie Miller
14. Jerry West
15. Julius Erving
16. Kyrie Irving
17. Tracy McGrady
18. Magic Johnson
19. Pete Maravich
20. Oscar Robertson
21. Steve Nash
22. Grant Hill
23. Clyde Drexler
24. Penny Hardaway
25. James Harden
26. John Stockton
27. Vince Carter
28. Eddie Jones
29. Kevin Garnett (most skilled 4 of all time)
29. Giannis Antetokounmpo
30. Russell Westbrook
31. Damian Lillard
32. Jason Williams (White Chocolate)
33. Charles Barkley
34. Karl Malone
35. Hakeem Olajuwon (most skilled 5 of all time)
36. Tim Hardaway
37. Dominique Wilkins
38. David Thompson
39. Gary Payton
40. Glen Rice
41. Scottie Pippen
42. Chris Mullin
43. Wilt Chamberlain
44. David Robinson
45. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
46. Shawn Kemp
47. Shaquille O'Neal
48. Allan Houston
49. Bill Sharman
50. Manu Ginobili
Last edited by 72-10; 01-10-2019 at 01:14 AM.
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Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time
Originally Posted by 72-10
I've decided to update my list - don't know how I forgot T-Mac.
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Allen Iverson
4. Stephen Curry
5. Kevin Durant
6. Dwyane Wade
7. Chris Paul
8. LeBron James
9. Larry Bird
10. Ray Allen
11. Dirk Nowitzki
12. George Gervin
13. Reggie Miller
14. Jerry West
15. Julius Erving
16. Kyrie Irving
17. Tracy McGrady
18. Magic Johnson
19. Pete Maravich
20. Oscar Robertson
21. Steve Nash
22. Grant Hill
23. Clyde Drexler
24. Penny Hardaway
25. James Harden
26. John Stockton
27. Eddie Jones
28. Kevin Garnett (most skilled 4 of all time)
29. Giannis Antetokounmpo
30. Jason Williams (White Chocolate)
31. Charles Barkley
32. Karl Malone
33. Hakeem Olajuwon (most skilled 5 of all time)
34. Tim Hardaway
35. Dominique Wilkins
36. David Thompson
No Kareem???
Talk about big man, Yao has one of the best skills also
Shawn Kemp and Gary Payton?
No Scottie Pippen?
Sorry, your list has no credibility at all.
Don't just list out the players you "remember", this is crap job.
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Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time
Originally Posted by ronniec
No Kareem???
Talk about big man, Yao has one of the best skills also
Shawn Kemp and Gary Payton?
No Scottie Pippen?
Sorry, your list has no credibility at all.
Don't just list out the players you "remember", this is crap job.
This is interesting
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Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time
maybe Ewing's one - best jump shooting center of all time.
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Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time
Originally Posted by 72-10
I've decided to update my list - don't know how I forgot T-Mac.
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Allen Iverson
4. Stephen Curry
5. Kevin Durant
6. Dwyane Wade
7. Chris Paul
8. LeBron James
9. Larry Bird
10. Ray Allen
11. Dirk Nowitzki
12. George Gervin
13. Reggie Miller
14. Jerry West
15. Julius Erving
16. Kyrie Irving
17. Tracy McGrady
18. Magic Johnson
19. Pete Maravich
20. Oscar Robertson
21. Steve Nash
22. Grant Hill
23. Clyde Drexler
24. Penny Hardaway
25. James Harden
26. John Stockton
27. Vince Carter
28. Eddie Jones
29. Kevin Garnett (most skilled 4 of all time)
29. Giannis Antetokounmpo
30. Russell Westbrook
31. Damian Lillard
32. Jason Williams (White Chocolate)
33. Charles Barkley
34. Karl Malone
35. Hakeem Olajuwon (most skilled 5 of all time)
36. Tim Hardaway
37. Dominique Wilkins
38. David Thompson
39. Gary Payton
40. Glen Rice
41. Scottie Pippen
42. Chris Mullin
43. Wilt Chamberlain
44. David Robinson
45. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
46. Shawn Kemp
47. Shaquille O'Neal
48. Allan Houston
49. Bill Sharman
50. Manu Ginobili
The fact you forgot T-Mac makes this list void. T-Mac may be the most pure skilled player of all time.
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Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time
If you list off all basic basketball skills T-Mac may be the only person all-time that checks off every single box.
Which shows OP doesn't know his shit and made an obvious attempt to make yet another MJ slurpfest thread
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Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time
It's not the worst list, I'd put Kobe at #1 (only skillz MJ was obviously better) but Bird should be higher and LeBron should barely crack the top 25. Come on bruh
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Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time
Originally Posted by DaHeezy
The fact you forgot T-Mac makes this list void.
I was going to say the same thing about Grant Hill, that guy was all skill, barely looked like he was trying when he played.
Hill is one of those guy I really wish never got injured, we as fans missed out there.
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