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    Default Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Best mid-range shooter

    Most efficient handle

    Best hangtime and shot making ability vs LENGTH

    Best fadeaway

    Best post game for non-big

    Best combo leaper ever (goat-level off 1 and 2 legs)


    Who am I? (the most skilled player ever)

    LeBron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dray n Klay
    LeBron


    You might as well have said Deandre Jordan and you would've been more correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Best mid-range shooter

    Most efficient handle

    Best hangtime and shot making ability vs LENGTH

    Best fadeaway

    Best post game for non-big

    Best combo leaper ever (goat-level off 1 and 2 legs)


    Who am I? (the most skilled player ever)
    Jordan's work ethic was very well-documented. He perfected his craft. Definitely in the elite tier of "skill", ever.

    But... I think we have to realize his staggering advantages have even more to do with his supreme talent. Imho he is the most talented ball player I have ever seen. His improvisational body control, raw athletic specs, strength, quickness, hops, balance... his giant hands... he had so many natural advantages. Great skill, better/more effective player than Kobe, but imho less skilled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold soul
    Curry is high up there for sure but basketball is much more than just shooting you have to factor in everything.
    Yeah, definitely.

    He's arguably the GOAT moving without the ball.

    He's mentioned in the same breath as Kyrie Irving as a ball-handler, and deservedly so.

    He's a tremendous passer and playmaker, perhaps not elite but very good.

    And... he isn't just a great shooter. He's the best shooter ever by A LOT. His shooting ability is transformative. People look at the game differently, play the game differently because of Steph Curry. His 35-foot shot is respected. Have you become numb to that?

    The guy is the size of an average lean, athletic adult. And he had - perhaps - the greatest offensive season ever.

    If you don't think he deserves a nomination as the most skilled player in history, I would love to hear your argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prometheus
    Yeah, definitely.

    He's arguably the GOAT moving without the ball.

    He's mentioned in the same breath as Kyrie Irving as a ball-handler, and deservedly so.

    He's a tremendous passer and playmaker, perhaps not elite but very good.

    And... he isn't just a great shooter. He's the best shooter ever by A LOT. His shooting ability is transformative. People look at the game differently, play the game differently because of Steph Curry. His 35-foot shot is respected. Have you become numb to that?

    The guy is the size of an average lean, athletic adult. And he had - perhaps - the greatest offensive season ever.

    If you don't think he deserves a nomination as the most skilled player in history, I would love to hear your argument.

    His skills don’t translate as the stakes get higher


    Being skilled means being able to dominate in all levels of the NBA, not just the regular season


    He can shoot from 35 feet in the regular season but can’t make a behind the back pass in the Finals??

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    [QUOTE=Dray n Klay]His skills don

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    I've decided to update my list - don't know how I forgot T-Mac.

    1. Michael Jordan

    2. Kobe Bryant
    3. Allen Iverson
    4. Stephen Curry
    5. Kevin Durant
    6. Dwyane Wade
    7. Chris Paul
    8. LeBron James

    9. Larry Bird
    10. Ray Allen
    11. Dirk Nowitzki
    12. George Gervin
    13. Reggie Miller
    14. Jerry West
    15. Julius Erving
    16. Kyrie Irving
    17. Tracy McGrady
    18. Magic Johnson
    19. Pete Maravich
    20. Oscar Robertson
    21. Steve Nash
    22. Grant Hill
    23. Clyde Drexler
    24. Penny Hardaway
    25. James Harden
    26. John Stockton
    27. Vince Carter
    28. Eddie Jones
    29. Kevin Garnett (most skilled 4 of all time)
    29. Giannis Antetokounmpo
    30. Russell Westbrook
    31. Damian Lillard
    32. Jason Williams (White Chocolate)
    33. Charles Barkley
    34. Karl Malone
    35. Hakeem Olajuwon (most skilled 5 of all time)
    36. Tim Hardaway
    37. Dominique Wilkins
    38. David Thompson
    39. Gary Payton
    40. Glen Rice
    41. Scottie Pippen
    42. Chris Mullin
    43. Wilt Chamberlain
    44. David Robinson
    45. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    46. Shawn Kemp
    47. Shaquille O'Neal
    48. Allan Houston
    49. Bill Sharman
    50. Manu Ginobili
    Last edited by 72-10; 01-10-2019 at 01:14 AM.

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    Default Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by 72-10
    I've decided to update my list - don't know how I forgot T-Mac.

    1. Michael Jordan

    2. Kobe Bryant
    3. Allen Iverson
    4. Stephen Curry
    5. Kevin Durant
    6. Dwyane Wade
    7. Chris Paul
    8. LeBron James

    9. Larry Bird
    10. Ray Allen
    11. Dirk Nowitzki
    12. George Gervin
    13. Reggie Miller
    14. Jerry West
    15. Julius Erving
    16. Kyrie Irving
    17. Tracy McGrady
    18. Magic Johnson
    19. Pete Maravich
    20. Oscar Robertson
    21. Steve Nash
    22. Grant Hill
    23. Clyde Drexler
    24. Penny Hardaway
    25. James Harden
    26. John Stockton
    27. Eddie Jones
    28. Kevin Garnett (most skilled 4 of all time)
    29. Giannis Antetokounmpo
    30. Jason Williams (White Chocolate)
    31. Charles Barkley
    32. Karl Malone
    33. Hakeem Olajuwon (most skilled 5 of all time)
    34. Tim Hardaway
    35. Dominique Wilkins
    36. David Thompson
    No Kareem???
    Talk about big man, Yao has one of the best skills also

    Shawn Kemp and Gary Payton?

    No Scottie Pippen?

    Sorry, your list has no credibility at all.
    Don't just list out the players you "remember", this is crap job.

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    Default Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by ronniec
    No Kareem???
    Talk about big man, Yao has one of the best skills also

    Shawn Kemp and Gary Payton?

    No Scottie Pippen?

    Sorry, your list has no credibility at all.
    Don't just list out the players you "remember", this is crap job.
    This is interesting

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    Default Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time

    maybe Ewing's one - best jump shooting center of all time.

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    Default Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time

    [B]No Charles Barkley? At 6
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    Default Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by 72-10
    I've decided to update my list - don't know how I forgot T-Mac.

    1. Michael Jordan

    2. Kobe Bryant
    3. Allen Iverson
    4. Stephen Curry
    5. Kevin Durant
    6. Dwyane Wade
    7. Chris Paul
    8. LeBron James

    9. Larry Bird
    10. Ray Allen
    11. Dirk Nowitzki
    12. George Gervin
    13. Reggie Miller
    14. Jerry West
    15. Julius Erving
    16. Kyrie Irving
    17. Tracy McGrady
    18. Magic Johnson
    19. Pete Maravich
    20. Oscar Robertson
    21. Steve Nash
    22. Grant Hill
    23. Clyde Drexler
    24. Penny Hardaway
    25. James Harden
    26. John Stockton
    27. Vince Carter
    28. Eddie Jones
    29. Kevin Garnett (most skilled 4 of all time)
    29. Giannis Antetokounmpo
    30. Russell Westbrook
    31. Damian Lillard
    32. Jason Williams (White Chocolate)
    33. Charles Barkley
    34. Karl Malone
    35. Hakeem Olajuwon (most skilled 5 of all time)
    36. Tim Hardaway
    37. Dominique Wilkins
    38. David Thompson
    39. Gary Payton
    40. Glen Rice
    41. Scottie Pippen
    42. Chris Mullin
    43. Wilt Chamberlain
    44. David Robinson
    45. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    46. Shawn Kemp
    47. Shaquille O'Neal
    48. Allan Houston
    49. Bill Sharman
    50. Manu Ginobili
    The fact you forgot T-Mac makes this list void. T-Mac may be the most pure skilled player of all time.

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    Default Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time

    If you list off all basic basketball skills T-Mac may be the only person all-time that checks off every single box.

    Which shows OP doesn't know his shit and made an obvious attempt to make yet another MJ slurpfest thread

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    Default Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time

    It's not the worst list, I'd put Kobe at #1 (only skillz MJ was obviously better) but Bird should be higher and LeBron should barely crack the top 25. Come on bruh

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    Default Re: Raw skill: Most skilled players of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by DaHeezy
    The fact you forgot T-Mac makes this list void.
    I was going to say the same thing about Grant Hill, that guy was all skill, barely looked like he was trying when he played.
    Hill is one of those guy I really wish never got injured, we as fans missed out there.

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