Zion is underwhelming

[FireDavidKahn]

This thread is going to be gold to bump

No kidding.

Something like 80% of this board thought DonThicc was going to be a bust.

That alone shows you the high level of basketball discussion that happens here

[andgar923]

Theres nothing special about his handle or passing. Average at best. His rebounding is ok, maybe a bit above average, but hes playing with kids. His shooting is a joke. Most overrated prospect since Wiggins.

Have you seen him handle the ball? Sure he's not the professor, but he breaks down defenders and double teams ALL THE TIME. And it aint like he's simply beating bigs off the dribble, he's usually beating players smaller than him with the crossover.

He gets doubled a ton.

He has good-great court vision and makes smart decisions with the ball. He's a legit passer that can pass. He aint gonna be running the offence but he doesn't have to cause unlike Bron he can move without the ball.

[FireDavidKahn]

The ground he covered on this block is

https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/...97231157805057

[SamuraiSWISH]

His lack of ability to punish much smaller defenders on the block, or clear out just to get a pass in the post is severely underwhelming.

As is his handle, and creativity going off the dribble in the face up game.

Not to mention, he’s only a freshman, and he is like a cheeseburger or two away from being fat.

[PeroAntic]

Have you seen him handle the ball? Sure he's not the professor, but he breaks down defenders and double teams ALL THE TIME. And it aint like he's simply beating bigs off the dribble, he's usually beating players smaller than him with the crossover.

He gets doubled a ton.

He has good-great court vision and makes smart decisions with the ball. He's a legit passer that can pass. He aint gonna be running the offence but he doesn't have to cause unlike Bron he can move without the ball.

So basically hes 'kinda okayish' in some aspects of basketball. Sure, that will work in the NBA.

btw Andrew Wiggins had a better handle in college, just for reference. And what good is it if he can move without the ball, if he can't shoot?

In this league you either handle the ball and create plays, or space and shoot. He does neither. Era of scrappers is over

[scuzzy]

Definitely not the prospect to be betting against


Very very unique athlete, NBA is in for a good treat

[ImKobe]

So basically hes 'kinda okayish' in some aspects of basketball. Sure, that will work in the NBA.

btw Andrew Wiggins had a better handle in college, just for reference. And what good is it if he can move without the ball, if he can't shoot?

In this league you either handle the ball and create plays, or space and shoot. He does neither. Era of scrappers is over

Ok, so he's similar to what Blake was coming into the NBA.. he can develop his shot and he can work on his handle, but you can't teach the kind of raw talent he has.

Problem with Wiggins was(and still is) that he wasn't aggressive enough, he didn't have that "dog" in him, you saw all-time great athletic ability, but he didn't look like he wanted to play half the time. I don't ever see that issue with Zion, who's actually playing defense and is putting his body on the line.

[PeroAntic]

Ok, so he's similar to what Blake was coming into the NBA.. he can develop his shot and he can work on his handle, but you can't teach the kind of raw talent he has.

Problem with Wiggins was(and still is) that he wasn't aggressive enough, he didn't have that "dog" in him, you saw all-time great athletic ability, but he didn't look like he wanted to play half the time. I don't ever see that issue with Zion, who's actually playing defense and is putting his body on the line.

I was referring to Wiggins' handle, which was called 'decent' in college and turned out to be shit for the NBA. Now if Zion works as hard as Blake MAYBE he will reach his level of shooting and handle (its not a given because it works different for everybody). I could see Zion go down Blake's route, including the injuries, but that is not ATG level. And Blake is not an undersized tweener.

[ImKobe]

I was referring to Wiggins' handle, which was called 'decent' in college and turned out to be shit for the NBA. Now if Zion works as hard as Blake MAYBE he will reach his level of shooting and handle (its not a given because it works different for everybody). I could see Zion go down Blake's route, including the injuries, but that is not ATG level. And Blake is not an undersized tweener.

Zion looks like he's willing to put in the work though. If Randle could be successful in today's NBA off sheer athleticism, so can Zion, and take into account that Randle didn't shoot 3s at all in College and wasn't known for his defense either, nor was he nearly as efficient at scoring.

[andgar923]

So basically hes 'kinda okayish' in some aspects of basketball. Sure, that will work in the NBA.

btw Andrew Wiggins had a better handle in college, just for reference. And what good is it if he can move without the ball, if he can't shoot?

In this league you either handle the ball and create plays, or space and shoot. He does neither. Era of scrappers is over

Even if he's more than 'kinda okayish' you're ignoring the reason why he's such a big prospect with high potential, I'll let you figure that out.

Andrew Wiggins??? The two are nowhere near comparable at all, just log off while you can to save face.

You show your ignorance yet again.. either you're young or you're an idiot that knows nothing about basketball. Moving without the ball will free him to get easy opportunities specially in this no touch wide open lane era. But you'd know that if you understood basketball. Moving without the ball makes a player a more potent threat because he's in constant motion which not only makes him more of a threat to score, but opens up more offensive possibilities for this teammates. But of course you already knew that


But he does handle and creates plays. I just mentioned he's constantly beating doubles and traps in a more congested/physical environment. They actually play true zone in college and they tend to surround him with multiple defenders. The college 3pt line is also closer which makes space more congested and harder to maneuver. Yet Zion does a great job at beating zones, doubles, traps etc. All without charging and creating turnovers which is impressive for someone his size.

I honestly think you're young and don't understand ball yet, so I'll cut you some slack. But next time think twice before posting.

[FireDavidKahn]