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    Default Why do people say Kobe is more skilled than mj?

    I like both guys. I think mj is slightly better but I think Kobe deserves to be in the goat convo just as much as LeBron or any other great. I don't get the Kobe is more skilled statement though. What is more skilled at?

    The only thing out of all the aspect of basketball that I can think of is handles and 3 point shooting. The handles one is actually interesting because it seems alot of people seem to think that better handles means more flashy handles where I would say better handles means being able to get to your spots and beat your defender while protecting the ball. Mj did this as good or probably a little bit better than Kobe.

    Everything else mj was as skilled or more skilled than Kobe. Jordan was a better passer, rebounder and defender. There footwork was equal. Mid-range was equal. Jordan was a better finisher. Jordan moved better off the ball.

    Am I missing something? What is Kobe more skilled at than mj other than 3 point shooting?

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    Default Re: Why do people say Kobe is more skilled than mj?

    Ask Phil Jackson

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    Default Re: Why do people say Kobe is more skilled than mj?

    Kobe pretty skilled at throwing SHAQ under the bus..

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    Default Re: Why do people say Kobe is more skilled than mj?

    Quote Originally Posted by NBASTATMAN
    Kobe pretty skilled at throwing SHAQ under the bus..
    How about throwing Shaq wide open spoonfed passes?


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    Default Re: Why do people say Kobe is more skilled than mj?

    Kobe will always be a poor man's version of MJ

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    Default Re: Why do people say Kobe is more skilled than mj?

    Kobe isn't more skilled overall

    The MJ fam simply invented the "more skilled" narrative for Kobe fam, just to throw them a bone as they get left out of the goat debate.. I mean, it's an unfortunate set of circumstances that Kobe couldn't match MJ and now gets forgotten

    But ultimately, it's the media's fault though for propping up a non-goat and forgetting about Kobe

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    Default Re: Why do people say Kobe is more skilled than mj?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Kobe isn't more skilled overall

    The MJ fam simply invented the "more skilled" narrative for Kobe fam, just to throw them a bone as they get left out of the goat debate.. I mean, it's an unfortunate set of circumstances that Kobe couldn't match MJ and now gets forgotten

    But ultimately, it's the media's fault though for propping up a non-goat and forgetting about Kobe
    Why did Phil Jackson say otherwise?

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    Default Re: Why do people say Kobe is more skilled than mj?

    More skilled?

    Kobe couldnt slash for shit, hence why he's a career 44% shooter.

    Worse defender.
    Less clutch.
    Worse handles.
    Slower.
    Less athletic.
    Worse mid-range.

    I could go on.

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    Default Re: Why do people say Kobe is more skilled than mj?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nowoco
    More skilled?

    Kobe couldnt slash for shit, hence why he's a career 44% shooter.

    Worse defender.
    Less clutch.
    Worse handles.
    Slower.
    Less athletic.
    Worse mid-range.

    I could go on.
    Why do Kobe and Duncan have the same career TS%?

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    Default Re: Why do people say Kobe is more skilled than mj?

    Quote Originally Posted by superduper
    Why did Phil Jackson say otherwise?
    Again, the MJ fam invented the "more skilled" narrative for Kobe fam, just to throw them a bone as they get left out of the goat debate..

    it's an unfortunate set of circumstances (Kobe copying the goat but coming up short) that Kobe now gets forgotten

    MJ fam feels sorry for him.. it's not how we intended

    And Phil is MJ fam.. he knows MJ is the one that put his shit, garbage-ass, almost entirely unsuccessful triangle on the map. Otherwise, Kobe would never have gotten to use it. MJ made Phil by accepting him and his shit offense

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    Default Re: Why do people say Kobe is more skilled than mj?

    Outside and 3-point shooting goes to Kobe. Aesthetic ball handling goes to Kobe (Jordan had bigger hands so it looked less flashy). Then the rest defense, driving to the basket, hang time, strength, speed, quickness, agility, foot quickness, mid range shooting and inside scoring goes to MJ.

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    Default Re: Why do people say Kobe is more skilled than mj?

    Quote Originally Posted by superduper
    Why did Phil Jackson say otherwise?
    Could be because like many he miss uses the word. Many equate more flashy to more skilled. The better handles is a perfect example. Kobe had much more flashy handles but I would argue that mj had better handles or at least as good. This is due to Mj's hand size and more efficient dribbling technique.

    Forget what Phil says. What do you say? What is Kobe more skilled at exactly

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    Default Re: Why do people say Kobe is more skilled than mj?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    Kobe will always be a poor man's version of MJ
    This. And as accomplished as Kobe was, he'll be inferior to MJ. But which NBA player isn't?

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    Default Re: Why do people say Kobe is more skilled than mj?

    jordans shot beyond 15 feet was a flat push shot like a 6th grade female on her period.

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    Default Re: Why do people say Kobe is more skilled than mj?

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffen
    jordans shot beyond 15 feet was a flat push shot like a 6th grade female on her period.
    This

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