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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    If you want to be talked about among the best, then you use the stats when you were considered the best player on your team. The franchise player. [COLOR="DarkRed"]That didn't happen for Kobe until 2005[/COLOR].
    And the jordan playing style once again won multiple rings with just one other all-star

    So proven across eras..

    Jordan style is simply the best way to yield the best chemistry and teamwork, so the team doesn't need ridiculous talent like lebron needs with his lower ball movement style.

    That's why MJ is 6/6 and #1 on the list

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    And the jordan playing style once again won multiple rings with just one other all-star

    So proven across eras..

    Jordan style is simply the best way to yield the best chemistry and teamwork, so the team doesn't need ridiculous talent like lebron needs with his lower ball movement style.

    That's why MJ is 6/6 and #1 on the list

    #Facts

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffen
    well thats it for me. i'm out of here. my life has meant nothing




    if anyone wants to carry on my legacy my password is "bootsboots"
    Talk about unstable. You're better off without ish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    And the jordan playing style once again won multiple rings with just one other all-star

    So proven across eras..

    Jordan style is simply the best way to yield the best chemistry and teamwork, so the team doesn't need ridiculous talent like lebron needs with his lower ball movement style.

    That's why MJ is 6/6 and #1 on the list
    Teams better than anything MJ faced in the finals
    13 Spurs
    14 Spurs
    15 Warriors
    16 Warriors
    17 Warriors
    18 Warriors
    19 Warriors

    MJ ain't shit. Yes I said it. Kill yourself too 3ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAmbruh
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    12be

    LBJ should be ranked 1 but whatever

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0kakw0rld
    Teams better than anything MJ faced in the finals
    13 Spurs
    14 Spurs
    15 Warriors
    16 Warriors
    17 Warriors
    18 Warriors
    19 Warriors

    MJ ain't shit. Yes I said it.l
    100% FACTS

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    Quote Originally Posted by coin24
    This lame shit again

    Kobe routinely ran a train on the Spurs, why would anyone have duncan over gawdbe
    Kobe is 21-31 lifetime when playing against Duncan. 39-43 if you count the playoffs, with 14 of those 18 playoff wins coming when Shaq was leading the Lakers and doing all the heavy lifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baudkarma
    Kobe is 21-31 lifetime when playing against Duncan. 39-43 if you count the playoffs, with 14 of those 18 playoff wins coming when Shaq was leading the Lakers and doing all the heavy lifting.
    caught

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0kakw0rld

    Teams better than anything MJ faced in the finals

    13 Spurs
    14 Spurs
    15 Warriors
    16 Warriors
    17 Warriors
    18 Warriors
    19 Warriors
    MJ won with less (only 1 all-star teammate) and would've been unfathomable with 2 like lebron had to face the Spurs and Warriors

    Heck, Lebron teamed up with Wade.. .. that alone gave him the most talent in the league and he was favored against the Spurs.. against the Warriors, he had another big 3 that was favored in 15' before kyrie went down


    Quote Originally Posted by k0kakw0rld

    Kill yourself too 3ball
    List the players MJ defeated in the playoffs: Magic, Shaq, Isiah, Ewing, Malone, Barkley, Drexler, Payton, Dominique

    Those guys rank higher overall than Duncan, Curry, Durant, and then crap like DeRozan, Horford.... And obviously, shaq/penny destroy hibbert/george... And garnett/pierce/allen were all 35 years old when lebron beat them, while Isiah/dumars/rodman were 27-29 when MJ beat them

    And on and on.. MJ faced and defeated better players than lebron..


    Quote Originally Posted by k0kakw0rld

    MJ ain't shit. Yes I said it.
    All of MJ's wins except 92' was like beating the equivalent of a Spurs-level team

    The Spurs sometimes had higher net efficiency because they faced weaker comp in the late 00's than the stacked 90's west - it was 3-4 spurs teams playing each other back then, hence them taking turns losing to MJ in the Finals as 60-win Finals losers.. So MJ would smash the Spurs.. 3-0 in Lebron's shoes

    And look at the 2 times MJ faced Duncan in 98' - dominated him, won without pippen.. sure Duncan was only the most prepared rookie ever

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    Magic is very high on this list and D-Rob is better than Stockton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rico2016
    I found the ESPN top 20 list




    *notables include: MJ #1, Kareem #2, LeBron #3, Kobe #12, Dirk #17

    I’m fine with this list. Is there anything that sticks out to you?
    So MJ beat 5 guys on the list.. set the playoff record against another..

    and Isiah who must've barely missed the list

    He also played against nearly everyone on the list

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    Oscar is really overrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbw19
    [COLOR=Teal]Is it more newsworthy though than this Tim Donaghy article that tops all records @ 50+ PgDn length?[/COLOR]

    [COLOR=Teal]Matter of time before another betting scandal hits the league now that they're legalizing sports betting, mark my words.
    [/COLOR]


    I watched the video and I don't really understand what it means. (I do speak English.)

    So... what does it mean? What exactly did Tim Donaghy do? Was he making the right calls or not? How did this work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UK2K
    Shaq should be higher.

    He was the single most dominant player to ever play the game. Period
    Agreed. He should be higher no doubt.
    Quote Originally Posted by LAmbruh
    The Consensus always striking!


    Quote Originally Posted by G0ATbe
    Still #12?
    He tried his best

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1
    ESPN made this list in 2016, after the finals if I'm not mistaken.


    LeHose James took over #1 since the last update, IMO..
    He should be at least #2, but yes I agree should be #1

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