NBA Exec. "Anywhere Lebron goes, [the front office] are suddenly under the gun"

[STATUTORY]

Lebron is a franchise killer. the toxicity is REAL with the LeGBT community

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...h-as-you-think

"Even if you're solid in your job, you know that anywhere LeBron goes you're suddenly under the gun," he says. "Your only choice is to give him the keys and let him run it. And even if you didn't want that, your owner might. Because he doesn't have to deal with what comes with it."

"I still think you could get a decent package for him from a bad team," one Western Conference assistant GM says. "A first-round pick and a good young player. But it would've been a lot more a year ago, for sure."

[Phoenix]

The crazy thing is, KD's comments about toxicity have proved so on the mark and timely given what's happened. Lebron has been a horrible leader and galvanizer this year, whatever argument one wants to make about the roster makeup. I can't see any prime superstar outside of AD( who ain't done anything beyond stats) or Kyrie( who thinks the planet is flat so whatever) is going to risk their name being dragged through the mud when shit goes south, or getting little credit when things go right.

[STATUTORY]

The crazy thing is, KD's comments about toxicity have proved so on the mark and timely given what's happened this year. Lebron has been a horrible leader and galvanizer this year, whatever argument one wants to make about the roster makeup. I can't see any prime superstar outside of AD( who ain't done anything beyond stats) or Kyrie( who thinks the planet is flat so whatever) is going to risk their name being dragged through the mud when shit goes south, or getting little credit when things go right.

KD spoke it into existence

LeGBT community in shambles

[FKAri]

Establishes dominance wherever he goes. What a ****ing GOAT

The crazy thing is, KD's comments about toxicity have proved so on the mark and timely given what's happened. Lebron has been a horrible leader and galvanizer this year, whatever argument one wants to make about the roster makeup. I can't see any prime superstar outside of AD( who ain't done anything beyond stats) or Kyrie( who thinks the planet is flat so whatever) is going to risk their name being dragged through the mud when shit goes south, or getting little credit when things go right.

So you want guys who are more worried about how they look than what they do. Sounds like you prefer phaggits as leaders. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Phoenix]

So you want guys who are more worried about how they look than what they do. Sounds like you prefer phaggits as leaders. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Since I know you like to bullshit for kicks, this is all the energy I need to use acknowledging that.

[3ball]

NBA Exec. "Anywhere Lebron goes, [the front office] are suddenly under the gun"

That's because lebron wins off talent, so it's on the front office to get him enough to win right away

but dynasties win off team development and organic teamwork, where it's on the star player to lead (russell), elevate teammates (mj), and set the tone (curry).. stars elevated teammates, not teammates elevating the star (moar help!)

Lebron basically panicked in 10' and gave up on a dynasty, opting for a quicker and easier fix - hopping on super-teams favored to win the Finals in year 1.. essentially skipping teammate and team development stages
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[STATUTORY]

That's because lebron wins off talent, so it's on the front office to get him enough to win right away

but dynasties win off team development and organic teamwork, where it's on the star player to lead (russell), elevate teammates (mj), and set the tone (curry).. stars elevated teammates, not teammates elevating the star (moar help!)

Lebron basically panicked in 10' and gave up on a dynasty, opting for a quicker and easier fix - hopping on super-teams favored to win the Finals in year 1.. essentially skipping teammate and team development stages
.

Lebron is also deceptively hard to construct a team around because of his flaws as a player and inability to play in any systems

[FKAri]

Since I know you like to bullshit for kicks, this is all the energy I need to use acknowledging that.

Wait. Was your post serious?

[Phoenix]

Wait. Was your post serious?

No more or less than whatever you consider yours to be.

[BigTicket]

This quote seems to describe the situation around Lebron, more than Lebron himself.

It's certainly true that media + fans/haters will put a ton of pressure on the front office of any team that has Lebron.

[3ball]

This quote seems to describe the situation around Lebron, more than Lebron himself.

It's certainly true that media + fans/haters will put a ton of pressure on the front office of any team that has Lebron.

Why isn't lebron's game good for teammate and team development

Why do the front offices have to get him ready-made stars.. other guys win with less, i.e. Jokic, harden and others

[FKAri]

No more or less than whatever you consider yours to be.

Alright well if you want a serious response:

Lebron is a micro manager. He certainly wants to win but he also wants to control everything. It's natural to have that desire for highly motivated and driven people; which he is. The problem lies in the fact that he needs to realize that there is only so much he can focus on. No one is going to give him(or ANY player) full reign of a team as a player. And having half reign with a power struggle is a disaster. He needs to let other people do their job. He can certainly be a part of the process on deciding who comes onboard; be it players or other staff but he can't be the only voice. And then when you do choose a person to do a job you then you put your trust into that person and let them do their job. You delegate jobs to thoroughly vetted people you can trust. You don't hover around second guessing everything they're doing, thereby making both of you less efficient.

That being said, it looks bad because it's backfired. I just think this season has been overblown. Lebron's 34, he doesn't fit his team, and they've had injuries. It shouldn't even be a story. Lebron + Lakers = media seizure.

[3ball]

Alright well if you want a serious response:

Lebron is a micro manager. He certainly wants to win but he also wants to control everything. It's natural to have that desire for highly motivated and driven people; which he is. The problem lies in the fact that he needs to realize that there is only so much he can focus on. No one is going to give him(or ANY player) full reign of a team as a player. And having half reign with a power struggle is a disaster. He needs to let other people do their job. He can certainly be a part of the process on deciding who comes onboard; be it players or other staff but he can't be the only voice. And then when you do choose a person to do a job you then you put your trust into that person and let them do their job. You delegate jobs to thoroughly vetted people you can trust. You don't hover around second guessing everything they're doing, thereby making both of you less efficient.

That being said, it looks bad because it's backfired. I just think this season has been overblown. Lebron's 34, he doesn't fit his team, and they've had injuries. It shouldn't even be a story. Lebron + Lakers = media seizure.

Why isn't lebron's game good for teammate and team development

Why do the front offices have to get him ready-made stars??.. other guys win with less, i.e. Jokic, harden and others

[BigTicket]

Why isn't lebron's game good for teammate and team development

Why do the front offices have to get him ready-made stars.. other guys win with less, i.e. Jokic, harden and others

Because Lebron is nearing the end of his prime, so timing is critical. Personally I think his championship window is already closed, but others seem to think he still has a few years left, so they are rushing to get in before the deadline.

Lebron also won with less when he was earlier in his career.

In a few years when the pressure to win is gone, he can also go back to being a mentor for younger players, similar to what Dirk is doing.

[Phoenix]

Alright well if you want a serious response:

Lebron is a micro manager. He certainly wants to win but he also wants to control everything. It's natural to have that desire for highly motivated and driven people; which he is. The problem lies in the fact that he needs to realize that there is only so much he can focus on. No one is going to give him(or ANY player) full reign of a team as a player. And having half reign with a power struggle is a disaster. He needs to let other people do their job. He can certainly be a part of the process on deciding who comes onboard; be it players or other staff but he can't be the only voice. And then when you do choose a person to do a job you then you put your trust into that person and let them do their job. You don't hover around second guessing everything they're doing.

That being said, it looks bad because it's backfired. I just think this season has been overblown. Lebron's 34, he doesn't fit his team, and they've had injuries. It shouldn't even be a story. Lebron + Lakers = media seizure.

Now we're talking.

In reality, every season since returning to Cleveland has been drama-filled stench by midseason. Winning the east covered it up. It's 'ugly' now for all the reasons you state in your last paragraph.