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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: All players were carried at least one series (i.e. 06' shaq, 11' lebron), except
Originally Posted by TheCorporation
So has star needed more help than Jordan?
Lebron needed more help to win 3 rings because he only averaged 27.2 and 7.2 apg in the 12/13/16 playoffs versus 33.7 and 6.6 for MJ in 91-93' playoffs
So either lebron needed more help to win, or his rings required less production to win..
Furthermore, for their first 3 rings, both MJ and lebron averaged 7 apg to lead their team, but MJ led his team in scoring/clutch by goat amounts, while lebron needed a near-equal scoring partner and better clutch partner
lebron also needs way more help because he needs a team willing to sacrifice teammate/team assists and brand of ball so he can dominate the ball and get assists - it's a fact that teammates see their assists crater next to him, while the team has low assist rankings and gets massively out-assisted in the championship
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Re: All players were carried at least one series (i.e. 06' shaq, 11' lebron), except
Originally Posted by 3ball
MJ because he was never outscored by a teammate or opponent in any series, or lost fmvp
goat
that is because he took so many darn shots.. He played one good game in 1993 vs the KNICKS.. He could have not played that series and the Bulls would have won that series..
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: All players were carried at least one series (i.e. 06' shaq, 11' lebron), except
Originally Posted by NBASTATMAN
that is because he took so many darn shots.. He played one good game in 1993 vs the KNICKS.. He could have not played that series and the Bulls would have won that series..
MJ had the same shooting efficiency as lebron, ~ 57 ts
So he did more than lebron (volume) of a good thing (57% ts)
MJ simply did more
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Re: All players were carried at least one series (i.e. 06' shaq, 11' lebron), except
Originally Posted by 3ball
MJ had the same shooting efficiency as lebron, ~ 57 ts
So he did more than lebron (volume) of a good thing (57% ts)
MJ simply did more
The next year they beat the Knicks without Mj up until David Stern happened.. You know that wasnt a foul.. LOL
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: All players were carried at least one series (i.e. 06' shaq, 11' lebron), except
Originally Posted by NBASTATMAN
The next year they beat the Knicks without Mj up until David Stern happened.. You know that wasnt a foul.. LOL
It's pretty dumb to foul a 3-point shooter - that's the first thing they teach in junior high
That foul and the sit-out game, along with a horrible game 7 were three chokes in 1 series for pip
But they still had a chance because they'd developed the best brand of basketball and teamwork, as required to build any dynasty..
Those bulls only won 47 games in 1989 and would've missed the 45-win playoff cut without mj's 33/8/8.. so that was a lottery roster that MJ developed into a dynasty by 91'.. it all started with that goat carry-job in 89', where they nearly made the Finals with a 6 seed
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9x All Defensive 1st
Re: All players were carried at least one series (i.e. 06' shaq, 11' lebron), except
Originally Posted by NBASTATMAN
The next year they beat the Knicks without Mj up until David Stern happened.. You know that wasnt a foul.. LOL
True but he just wont admit it
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: All players were carried at least one series (i.e. 06' shaq, 11' lebron), except
Originally Posted by And1AllDay
True but he just wont admit it
Heck yeah it was a foul - watch the tape
A hideous foul
That foul and the sit-out game, along with a horrible game 7 were three chokes in 1 series for pip
But they still had a chance because they'd developed the best brand of basketball and teamwork, as required to build any dynasty..
Those bulls only won 47 games in 1989 and would've missed the 45-win playoff cut without mj's 33/8/8.. so that was a lottery roster that MJ developed into a dynasty by 91'.. it all started with that goat carry-job in 89', where they nearly made the Finals with a 6 seed
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