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    Default Re: Is LeBron really a better passer than mj?

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    MJ has more assists when you include "hockey" assists (ball movement), which LeStatPad avoids:






    Shovel pass with left hand






    No easy drive-and-kick for threes like Lebron






    No-spacing and thread needle assists that are tougher than Lebron's wide open spacing








    Best passing video for Jordan:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0jbrTZaz0aY



    Btw, we know MJ was the better passer despite the career stats because he had better stats when he played PG for 24 games in 89' (30/9/11 and 10 triple-doubles in 11 games)

    He also averaged 11.4 apg in the 91' Finals without playing PG (the only player to average 10+ without bringing ball up court/PG)

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    Default Re: Is LeBron really a better passer than mj?

    His assist to turnover ratios are worse in regular season and playoffs

    He has less assists "per game" as you say is so much more important

    So now what?

    APG
    LBJ, Peak = 9.1; Career = 7.2
    MJ, Peak = 8.0; Career = 5.3



    Now head over to the "top 5 worst most unefficient scorer FG%" thread you have more work to do. Chop chop!

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    Default Re: Is LeBron really a better passer than mj?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam2
    His assist to turnover ratios are worse in regular season and playoffs

    He has less assists "per game" as you say is so much more important

    So now what?

    APG
    LBJ, Peak = 9.1; Career = 7.2
    MJ, Peak = 8.0; Career = 5.3



    Now head over to the "top 5 worst most unefficient scorer FG%" thread you have more work to do. Chop chop!
    For all the dents you try to assign to Jordan's career, lebron has far more, and worse blemishes

    You point out things like the FG%, when Lebron shot worse in the 15' Finals and has far more and worse negatives than MJ

    He was horrible in the 2013 Finals thru 6 games (16 on 39% thru 3 games, and 23 on 43 thru 6) - and needed Ray Allen to force game 7 - and lebron was a net negative for the series - that's much worse than any of MJ's Finals, or anything in his career

    And he made the 2014 Finals by averaging only 22/6/5

    So he won with shittier performance than MJ ever did..so your posts are meaningless - Lebron's lows are much lower than Jordan's

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    Default Re: Is LeBron really a better passer than mj?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    For all the dents you try to assign to Jordan's career, lebron has far more, and worse blemishes

    You point out things like the FG%, when Lebron shot worse in the 15' Finals and has far more and worse negatives than MJ

    He was horrible in the 2013 Finals thru 6 games (16 on 39% thru 3 games, and 23 on 43 thru 6) - and needed Ray Allen to force game 7 - and lebron was a net negative for the series - that's much worse than any of MJ's Finals, or anything in his career

    And he made the 2014 Finals by averaging only 22/6/5

    So he won with shittier performance than MJ ever did..so your posts are meaningless - Lebron's lows are much lower than Jordan's
    We are talking about passing and now you mentioning FG% . I'll repost the thread title because you seem a little lost:

    Is LeBron really a better passer than mj?

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    Default Re: Is LeBron really a better passer than mj?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam2
    His assist to turnover ratios are worse in regular season and playoffs

    He has less assists "per game" as you say is so much more important

    So now what?

    APG
    LBJ, Peak = 9.1; Career = 7.2
    MJ, Peak = 8.0; Career = 5.3



    Now head over to the "top 5 worst most unefficient scorer FG%" thread you have more work to do. Chop chop!
    Draymond Green: 7.2 (last for years)

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    Default Re: Is LeBron really a better passer than mj?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam2
    We are talking about passing and now you mentioning FG% . I'll repost the thread title because you seem a little lost:

    Is LeBron really a better passer than mj?
    You must've missed the post at the top of this page, which clearly answers your question in the negative

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    Default Re: Is LeBron really a better passer than mj?

    Draymond and igoudala are very good passers.

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