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In the 92 playoffs, Kevin Gamble named Kareem as the greatest player he had ever seen
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Re: In the 92 playoffs, Kevin Gamble named Kareem as the greatest player he had ever seen
Kareem is a tier 1 or tier 2 player so I'm not sure where you're going with this?
Tier 1
Jordan
Magic
LeBron
Shaq
Tier 2
Duncan
Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Tier 3
Hakeem
Kobe
Zeke
Bird
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JT
Re: In the 92 playoffs, Kevin Gamble named Kareem as the greatest player he had ever seen
Originally Posted by SpaceJam2
Kareem is a tier 1 or tier 2 player so I'm not sure where you're going with this?
Tier 1
Jordan
Magic
LeBron
Shaq
Tier 2
Duncan
Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Tier 3
Hakeem
Kobe
Zeke
Bird
Bird tier 3?!?
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Re: In the 92 playoffs, Kevin Gamble named Kareem as the greatest player he had ever seen
Originally Posted by Celtics 1825
Bird tier 3?!?
Swap out...Wilt then?
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Re: In the 92 playoffs, Kevin Gamble named Kareem as the greatest player he had ever seen
Originally Posted by SpaceJam2
Swap out...Wilt then?
Personally I would put Bird in tier 1, move Shaq down to tier 2, and then Wilt down to tier 3.
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Re: In the 92 playoffs, Kevin Gamble named Kareem as the greatest player he had ever seen
Originally Posted by Celtics 1825
Personally I would put Bird in tier 1, move Shaq down to tier 2, and then Wilt down to tier 3.
And I'm sure having "Celtics 1825" in your name has nothing to do with it
Bird is tough for me to rank because his longevity was just okay and he did have a couple poor Finals showings. But the man was a a do-it-all type of player.
Score. You got it.
Rebound. I'm on it.
Facilitate. Watch me work.
He also went up against very stacked teams in the Pistons/Lakers but then again he also had a very stacked team. He is very hard to rank for me.
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Re: In the 92 playoffs, Kevin Gamble named Kareem as the greatest player he had ever seen
Originally Posted by SpaceJam2
Kareem is a tier 1 or tier 2 player so I'm not sure where you're going with this?
Tier 1
Jordan
Magic
LeBron
Shaq
Tier 2
Duncan
Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Tier 3
Hakeem
Kobe
Zeke
Bird
The fck is Isiah doing there
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Re: In the 92 playoffs, Kevin Gamble named Kareem as the greatest player he had ever seen
Originally Posted by SpaceJam2
Kareem is a tier 1 or tier 2 player so I'm not sure where you're going with this?
Tier 1
Jordan
Magic
LeBron
Shaq
Tier 2
Duncan
Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Tier 3
Hakeem
Kobe
Zeke
Bird
Bird was always considered the better player between him and Magic when they were playing.
Then this new era dawned where apparently championships mean everything, and what we watched on the court doesn't matter, and then Magic leapfrogged him.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: In the 92 playoffs, Kevin Gamble named Kareem as the greatest player he had ever seen
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Stats for first 13 seasons (Kareem's stats aren't viable after that)
REGULAR SEASON - 85-98' vs 70-82'
Jordan:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 31.5 ppg.. 58.0 ts.. 35.3 usg.. 120 ortg.. 29.1 PER.. 0.274 ws/48.. 9.0 bpm
Kareem:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 26.5 ppg.. 59.0 ts.. 25.1 usg.. 118 ortg.. 26.5 PER.. 0.255 ws/48.. 7.9 bpm
PLAYOFFS
Jordan:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 33.5 ppg.. 56.8 ts.. 35.6 usg.. 118 ortg.. 28.6 PER.. 0.255 ws/48.. 10.1 bpm
Kareem:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 29.1 ppg.. 56.7 ts.. 26.1 usg.. 118 ortg.. 25.8 PER.. 0.232 ws/48.... 8.7 bpm
FINALS
Jordan:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 33.5 ppg.. 6 fmvp
Kareem:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 26.0 ppg.. 2 fmvp
[COLOR="DarkRed"]^^^(Rebound/Blocks and Assists/Steals are positions-dependant and not included)[/COLOR]
[I]SUMMARY - jordan has a massive statistical and winning edge over kareem.. this is despite Kareem not winning much in the 70's and playing for himself, while MJ was restricted by a winning system and brand of ball
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Re: In the 92 playoffs, Kevin Gamble named Kareem as the greatest player he had ever seen
Originally Posted by plowking
Bird was always considered the better player between him and Magic when they were playing.
Then this new era dawned where apparently championships mean everything, and what we watched on the court doesn't matter, and then Magic leapfrogged him.
Bird was clearly better from 80-86 but then his back issues started taking its toll. After 88 he wasnt really in his prime anymore despite a few solid seasons
Magic meanwhile had 3 of his best years from 89-91 and improved his game with improved shooting from the 3, midrange and FT. Bird from 89-91 was a shell of himself but then Magic got aids
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Re: In the 92 playoffs, Kevin Gamble named Kareem as the greatest player he had ever seen
Originally Posted by SpaceJam2
Kareem is a tier 1 or tier 2 player so I'm not sure where you're going with this?
Tier 1
Jordan
Magic
LeBron
Shaq
Tier 2
Duncan
Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Tier 3
Hakeem
Kobe
Zeke
Bird
Kareem has a legit argument as GOAT. These "tiers" are terrible
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: In the 92 playoffs, Kevin Gamble named Kareem as the greatest player he had ever seen
Originally Posted by SpaceJam2
Kareem is a tier 1 or tier 2 player so I'm not sure where you're going with this?
Tier 1
Jordan
Magic
LeBron
Shaq
Tier 2
Duncan
Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Tier 3
Hakeem
Kobe
Zeke
Bird
Swap Kareem with Magic and take out Zeke and that tier list is perfect
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NBA lottery pick
Re: In the 92 playoffs, Kevin Gamble named Kareem as the greatest player he had ever seen
The Bulls were dusting Kevin's Celtics all the time by the 90s. I find it quite shocking that he would still hold this view. Perhaps not enough accolades accrued and winning under the belt for another GOAT candidate at the time.
I believe the Bulls were 6-4 or 6-5 in head-to-head match ups between the two, with a Celtics team including: Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, Robert Parish, and Reggie Lewis.
Last edited by 72-10; 03-26-2019 at 11:03 AM.
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Re: In the 92 playoffs, Kevin Gamble named Kareem as the greatest player he had ever seen
This topic reminds me, would be cool to rewatch a whole bunch of Kareem. Refresh memories of past rewatches
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NBA Legend
Re: In the 92 playoffs, Kevin Gamble named Kareem as the greatest player he had ever seen
Originally Posted by plowking
Bird was always considered the better player between him and Magic when they were playing.
Then this new era dawned where apparently championships mean everything, and what we watched on the court doesn't matter, and then Magic leapfrogged him.
Exactly. But I think Magic still performing while injuries plagued Bird's last few years also changed that. Even though it shouldn't have.
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