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    Default Re: Trump: FBI, DOJ to review Jussie Smollett case

    Quote Originally Posted by nathanjizzle
    3 out of those 4 cases people died at the hands of "police"....one of them was a 16 year old, thats serious. those incidents require attention by the president. This smollet case doesn't...at all. its small and petty to sicc the FBI and DOJ on isnt it? surely you understand the difference right? or trump doesnt understand the difference.

    common pat, what im saying is true isn't it? Trump used the polar freeze this winter to make a point about global warming.

    This is a small minded, partisan assessment of the situation.

    This is a case that made national headlines, in which someone was either assaulted because of his identity, or falsely reported being so and attempted to frame an entire group of people for the crime.

    This used to happen to blacks all the time. Someone who ****ed up in their own life would fake a crime against them and claim it was a black guy. Do you have any idea how many innocent black people suffered as a result?

    You dont think that’s pretty serious? Or perhaps you think it’s okay if it happens today toward people you disagree with?

    If it’s wrong, it’s wrong. If it’s serious, it’s serious. If it should be investigated, it should be investigated.

    If Smollet is innocent, his supporters should welcome an investigation. If he is exonerated, people will be more likely to take these assault claims seriously going forward. If he’s guilty, he should be punished commensurately. False reports, particulrly public ones, endanger victims going forward. Either two assailants are out there and need to be brought to justice to discourage the public from thinking they can get away with it, OR if a false report was filed the perpetrator needs to be publicly reprimanded to discourage false reporting going forward and protect real potential victims.

    The case deserves a serious, public resolution.

    Obviously youre too partisan to care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeDelonte13
    sounds like bullsh*t to me. No idea why the fed gov. would blow a bunch of money to get involved in something this trivial.

    Assuming what is reported is true it won't be the first time somebody makes a false police report and doesn't get charged with a criminal offense.

    I'd love to know why in the hell the state initially indicted the guy and dumped all the charges. There had to have been some sort of reason.

    its to set an example to avoid future cases like this. if you let this guy go free without punishment then whats stopping other people from trying to divide a nation and vilify an entire race of people, take down an entire political party based off of racially motivated lies and deceit


    this case is actually very serious because of the repercussions had he succeeded. its obvious the democrats are protecting his a**


    this is literally an act of war IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by NumberSix
    Honestly, Trump should stay out of this. Let justice take its course. Sometimes, there will be bad outcomes. Let it go. It does nothing good to go monkeying around with the process.

    Trump needs to stay out of who sits or stands during a national anthem.

    False criminal reports that make national headlines and potentially endanger a variety of different people are something a President should be putting a spotlight on in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akrazotile
    This is a small minded, partisan assessment of the situation.

    This is a case that made national headlines, in which someone was either assaulted because of his identity, or falsely reported being so and attempted to frame an entire group of people for the crime.

    This used to happen to blacks all the time. Someone who ****ed up in their own life would fake a crime against them and claim it was a black guy. Do you have any idea how many innocent black people suffered as a result?

    You dont think that’s pretty serious? Or perhaps you think it’s okay if it happens today toward people you disagree with?

    If it’s wrong, it’s wrong. If it’s serious, it’s serious. If it should be investigated, it should be investigated.

    If Smollet is innocent, his supporters should welcome an investigation. If he is exonerated, people will be more likely to take these assault claims seriously going forward. If he’s guilty, he should be punished commensurately. False reports, particulrly public ones, endanger victims going forward. Either two assailants are out there and need to be brought to justice to discourage the public from thinking they can get away with it, OR if a false report was filed the perpetrator needs to be publicly reprimanded to discourage false reporting going forward and protect real potential victims.

    The case deserves a serious, public resolution.

    Obviously youre too partisan to care.
    so im partisan and trump is not? this case deserves a federal investigation? what else deserves federal investigations, false rape claims? and anybody that thinks otherwise is partisan? common akra vile. Its obviously trump is latching on to a political agenda. he wants the liberal that falsly claimed trumptards beat him to be punished even though the state has already dropped the charges. This is a state profile case and the charges were dropped, end of story. but trump is petty, its obvious and you defend petty behavior from someone in the highest office and therefore you are a sheep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanjizzle
    so im partisan and trump is not? this case deserves a federal investigation? what else deserves federal investigations, false rape claims? and anybody that thinks otherwise is partisan? common akra vile. Its obviously trump is latching on to a political agenda. he wants the liberal that falsly claimed trumptards beat him to be punished even though the state has already dropped the charges. This is a state profile case and the charges were dropped, end of story. but trump is petty, its obvious and you defend petty behavior from someone in the highest office and therefore you are a sheep.

    Of course Trump is doing it for partisan reasons. That doesnt mean it’s the wrong thing to do.

    The state dropped the charges very likely for political reasons. Would you be okay with that if this WAS a rape case?

    Further, as I mentioned, the high profile nature of this case has deep public reverberations. It’s not in the interest of the country to sweep it under the rug and leave people with divided interpretations. Either declare vigorously and publicly that the evidence suggests he was beaten... or declare vigorously and publicly he made bigoted false claims.

    If a high profile conservative did anything like this I would 100% support a thorough criminal investigation. If the resolution appeared genuinely tainted, I would at the very least not blame Democratic partisans for continuing to pursue the matter.

    You seem to think civil rights are owed only to your political allies.

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    The Smollett case was strange from the jump, and it is almost certain that he has been lying about what happened and his involvement, which makes it all the more puzzling that all of the charges have been dropped and the record expunged with him merely giving up his bond and performing community service. My guess is that there was some sort of wrongdoing or extra-legal behavior on the part of police or prosecution that made it problematic to try him.

    It's amusing that Trump has inserted himself into this, but not particularly surprising. Remember, he loves investigations... or at least calling for them on others. He isn't keen on addressing these sorts of matters when they are politically inconvenient.

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    Default Re: Trump: FBI, DOJ to review Jussie Smollett case

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    The Smollett case was strange from the jump, and it is almost certain that he has been lying about what happened and his involvement, which makes it all the more puzzling that all of the charges have been dropped and the record expunged with him merely giving up his bond and performing community service. My guess is that there was some sort of wrongdoing or extra-legal behavior on the part of police or prosecution that made it problematic to try him.

    It's amusing that Trump has inserted himself into this, but not particularly surprising. Remember, he loves investigations... or at least calling for them on others. He isn't keen on addressing these sorts of matters when they are politically inconvenient.

    Wasn't the police department publicly angered about the dropping of the charges?

    You don't think Smollett's political connections to the prosecution were more likely the factor at play here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeDelonte13
    sounds like bullsh*t to me. No idea why the fed gov. would blow a bunch of money to get involved in something this trivial.

    Assuming what is reported is true it won't be the first time somebody makes a false police report and doesn't get charged with a criminal offense.

    I'd love to know why in the hell the state initially indicted the guy and dumped all the charges. There had to have been some sort of reason.
    Yeah, it's trivial. It's whatever.. If it pleases Donny to investigate this, then go ahead. I couldn't care any less one way or the other

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    Default Re: Trump: FBI, DOJ to review Jussie Smollett case

    The case by itself might be small in perspective. And whether the president should involve himself by tweeting is another matter.

    However, there is no doubt that this case needed federal investigation as it has garnered much public attention. The result of the dropped charges are wide public mistrust and anger towards the prosecutor's office and the justice system. This is what the big deal is. As Trump said, it's an embarrassment to the nation.

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    Default Re: Trump: FBI, DOJ to review Jussie Smollett case

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxFly
    The Smollett case was strange from the jump, and it is almost certain that he has been lying about what happened and his involvement, which makes it all the more puzzling that all of the charges have been dropped and the record expunged with him merely giving up his bond and performing community service. My guess is that there was some sort of wrongdoing or extra-legal behavior on the part of police or prosecution that made it problematic to try him.
    Then why would the police demand a federal investigation? Wouldn’t that just uncover their wrongdoing that they otherwise would have gotten away with? If they did anything wrong, wouldn’t they be in the clear right now with all the records being sealed?

    Does this really make any sense?
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    Default Re: Trump: FBI, DOJ to review Jussie Smollett case

    Quote Originally Posted by Akrazotile
    Wasn't the police department publicly angered about the dropping of the charges?

    You don't think Smollett's political connections to the prosecution were more likely the factor at play here?
    Yeah, but it's possible they did something that made it difficult for prosecutors to try the case and reach a guilty verdict if that something came to light. It very well could have been Smollett's connections. I believe we'll eventually find out.

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    [QUOTE=NumberSix]Then why would the police demand a federal investigation? Wouldn

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    Default Re: Trump: FBI, DOJ to review Jussie Smollett case

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxFly
    It's possibly that they thought their processes and procedures were above board even if certain things were not. And it could be something completely different. I think we'll eventually find out what happened.
    hey - anything is possibly, man.

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    Default Re: Trump: FBI, DOJ to review Jussie Smollett case

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxFly
    Yeah, but it's possible they did something that made it difficult for prosecutors to try the case and reach a guilty verdict if that something came to light. It very well could have been Smollett's connections. I believe we'll eventually find out.
    They should have been open and explained why the charges were dropped. Raises needless conspiracy concerns otherwise.

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    Default Re: Trump: FBI, DOJ to review Jussie Smollett case

    This is an OBVIOUS case of doing a special favor for someone with political connections.

    I’m not saying the dude should have done prison time, but it’s absolutely inconceivable that if it was some guy without his connections they would make a deal that...

    1) drops all charges
    2) expunged his record
    3) seals all records
    4) no admission of guilt
    5) allows him to publicly lie about being innocent

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