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    Default Re: The Warriors are so much better at moving the ball without Durant in the lineup

    Quote Originally Posted by BallsOut
    If LeBron gets credit for his 3 titles playing with two other prime all-stars, so does Durant. Let's be consistent.
    even in their primes. Wade/Bosh alone werent winning a title however, that was obvious. By 14, werent even a playoff team. same for kyrie/love title wise. also, kd is playing with 3, that makes a difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by NBAGOAT
    even in their primes. Wade/Bosh alone werent winning a title however, that was obvious. By 14, werent even a playoff team. same for kyrie/love title wise. also, kd is playing with 3, that makes a difference

    Wade already proved he could win a title with a guy worse than prime Chris bosh... An old fat 12ppg shaq. Never ceases to amaze me how people underrate them.

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    Default Re: The Warriors are so much better at moving the ball without Durant in the lineup

    Quote Originally Posted by NBAGOAT
    even in their primes. Wade/Bosh alone werent winning a title however, that was obvious. By 14, werent even a playoff team. same for kyrie/love title wise. also, kd is playing with 3, that makes a difference
    Wade already won a title with lesser players than LeBron and Bosh before LeBron joined his team. What are you smoking?

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    Default Re: The Warriors are so much better at moving the ball without Durant in the lineup

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    Wade already won a title with lesser players than LeBron and Bosh before LeBron joined his team. What are you smoking?

    Dudes are on something else...

    An old Kobe and pau went back to back..

    A small kid from davidson, a second rounder, and klay Thompson formed one of the best dynasties ever..

    But prime Dwayne wade and an all NBA PF obviously couldn't win anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    Dudes are on something else...

    An old Kobe and pau went back to back..

    A small kid from davidson, a second rounder, and klay Thompson formed one of the best dynasties ever..

    But prime Dwayne wade and an all NBA PF obviously couldn't win anything.
    Totally insane.

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    Default Re: The Warriors are so much better at moving the ball without Durant in the lineup

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    Wade already proved he could win a title with a guy worse than prime Chris bosh... An old fat 12ppg shaq. Never ceases to amaze me how people underrate them.
    ii should've said past prime wade, my bad but I'll try and argue my way out of this.

    i'll be semantic and say that was peak wade along with 09. Prime wade includes more possible years. is 05 wade or 12 wade with just bosh really enough with crappy role players? I mean wade couldnt even win a title with 2nd in mvp voting shaq if we're using just a single year as an example.

    Different league too as playoff matchups can vary, dallas wasnt a particularly strong team(nothing agaisnt wade again he was fantastic but i'm trying argue my way out). Beating Dallas is different from beating SA or OKC. Like are wade and bosh by themselves really beating the 09-10 lakers either? I think ik your answer

    Edit: I dont feel bad about arguing this way now. When you call the warriors big 3 "a small kid from davidson, a second rounder, and klay" and a 30 year old kobe old and acting like no one outside of kobe and pau are worth mentioning, you're not arguing in good faith either lol.
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    Default Re: The Warriors are so much better at moving the ball without Durant in the lineup

    Kobe fans still desperately trying to draw parallels between LeBron and KD's moves

    Except nobody has ever bought it. There's a reason why each of LeBron's 3 rings were universally celebrated as alpha dog rings while everybody laughs at KD's.

    And that's because context matters to people. Joining 47 and 33-win teams is nothing like joining a 73-win team with a championship already under its belt.

    LeBron's teams shit the bed the moment he's injured or no longer on the team. KD's teams go 28-1 when he's out and win huge playoff games on the road.

    Thus one enjoys consensus top 5 status while nobody bothers ranking the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indian guy
    Kobe

    Seek help...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indian guy
    Kobe fans still desperately trying to draw parallels between LeBron and KD's moves

    Except nobody has ever bought it. There's a reason why each of LeBron's 3 rings were universally celebrated as alpha dog rings while everybody laughs at KD's.

    And that's because context matters to people. Joining 47 and 33-win teams is nothing like joining a 73-win team with a championship already under its belt.

    LeBron's teams shit the bed the moment he's injured or no longer on the team. KD's teams go 28-1 when he's out and win huge playoff games on the road.

    Thus one enjoys consensus top 5 status while nobody bothers ranking the other.
    Lebron didnt join a 47 win team or a 33 win team. There were multiple all Stars who joined with him on both of those teams. It wasn

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    Quote Originally Posted by 34-24 Footwork
    Seek help...


    These Bran stans are so visibly insecure

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    [QUOTE=warriorfan]Lebron didnt join a 47 win team or a 33 win team. There were multiple all Stars who joined with him on both of those teams. It wasn

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    [QUOTE=warriorfan]Lebron didnt join a 47 win team or a 33 win team. There were multiple all Stars who joined with him on both of those teams. It wasn

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMAVS41
    The Warriors lost nothing of note that wasn't replaced by KD. They also added players as well.

    Durant replaced the weakest noteworthy link on a team that won 67, a title, then 73, and a few plays away from a title. You can argue little details here and there, but the point is...they were / are elite title contenders without him. They aren't as good without him of course, but they are elite without him.

    Lebron and the Heat? Certainly for 11 when he had prime Wade healthy and Bosh healthy...one could draw a comparison...and I'm fine with that, but the level of team around Lebron in 11 doesn't touch what Durant has around him on the Warriors. Lebron's team was stacked no doubt...and no excuse for losing, but it just wasn't the same.

    After 11 though? By the time the playoffs hit in 12...Bosh/Wade weren't themselves...and then took an even bigger decline in 13. They just weren't right health wise and what Lebron did getting those two teams to titles was easily more difficult than anything KD has done for the Warriors.

    Again, best summed up by...

    Both bitch moves, Durant's just happened to be way worse and also has made the NBA way less interesting. Just the truth...no rational person is going to argue Lebron joining the Heat was as bad as Durant joining the Warriors from a competition standpoint.
    Sorry, you don

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    Default Re: The Warriors are so much better at moving the ball without Durant in the lineup

    [QUOTE=warriorfan]Lebron didnt join a 47 win team or a 33 win team. There were multiple all Stars who joined with him on both of those teams. It wasn

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    [QUOTE=warriorfan]Sorry, you don

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