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    Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    It's okay brah, Curry beats lebron in championships because he knows a better way to play basketball than lebron (ball movement, efficient offense, clutch)

    So it doesn't matter that lebron can match Curry in this one area (impact on team ortg) - because lebron-ball has a much lower ceiling than curry-ball and can't win

    it's apples and oranges tbh - this stat should only be used to compare winning brands of ball like Kobe/curry/durant, otherwise a bad brand/ball-domination can inflate the stat like it does for lebron
    so not only do you cherry pick stats. you also cherry pick the time to use them

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    Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

    Quote Originally Posted by NBASTATMAN
    SO FISHER had a bigger impact than KOBE.. IN THE NBAFINALS


    THREAD IS OVER

    https://stats.nba.com/team/161061274...1&LastNGames=5
    Bodied!

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    Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

    3ball on a Curry meltdown binger...seriously wtf is 3balls problem? Someone needs to take away this autistic ass retards access to the internet.

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    Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

    [QUOTE=warriorfan]LeBron

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    Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    In addition to Curry having a weaker offensive impact, as shown in the OP...

    he's bad at contested jumpshots from three and midrange - his poor contested efficiency means he isn't an all-time jumpshooter

    and 80% of his threes are open (system player), more than Dame or Harden
    Sorry MJ wasn't an elite 3 point shooter

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    Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    In addition to Curry having a weaker offensive impact, as shown in the OP...

    he's bad at contested jumpshots from three and midrange - his poor contested efficiency means he isn't an all-time jumpshooter

    and 80% of his threes are open (system player), more than Dame or Harden
    Thanks for showing me the advanced stat section of basketball reference. LeBrons career VORP blows Jordan out of the water. Was always a big Jordan guy but I hate to admit it but LeBron is probably better.

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    Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

    Quote Originally Posted by NBASTATMAN
    SO FISHER had a bigger impact than KOBE.. IN THE NBAFINALS


    THREAD IS OVER

    https://stats.nba.com/team/161061274...1&LastNGames=5
    My stats are for the whole playoffs and yours are for the last 5 games only

    Kobe leads the Lakers by a mile for the whole playoffs (18.0 to Odom's 11.6)

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    Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

    LeBron has more playoff points than MJ

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    Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    My stats are for the whole playoffs and yours are for the last 5 games only

    Kobe leads the Lakers by a mile for the whole playoffs (18.0 to Odom's 11.6)
    OP: Cherry picks
    OP when someone else does the same:

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    Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    My stats are for the whole playoffs and yours are for the last 5 games only

    Kobe leads the Lakers by a mile for the whole playoffs (18.0 to Odom's 11.6)

    So he played great vs the shitty WEST TEAMS.. They play a soft brand of bball..

    KOBE SHOULD NOT HAVE WON THE 2010 NBA FINALS.. He was horrid.. THANK YOU.. SO much more ammo

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    Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

    Quote Originally Posted by StrongLurk
    OP: Cherry picks
    OP when someone else does the same:
    Using an entire playoff run isn't cherry-picking..

    Not that it matters - Kobe's impact > Curry's.. that's all that matters

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    Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Using an entire playoff run isn't cherry-picking..

    Not that it matters - Kobe's impact > Curry's.. that's all that matters
    It is when these players have MANY playoff runs. Face it, you're a cherry picking, autistic loser.

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    Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Using an entire playoff run isn't cherry-picking..

    Not that it matters - Kobe's impact > Curry's.. that's all that matters
    How about LeBron's impact. Leading everyone in playoff points

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    Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

    Quote Originally Posted by StrongLurk
    Sorry MJ wasn't an elite 3 point shooter
    MJ was good at threes:


    1) When it mattered - 43% on 3.3 attempts in 91-93' Finals.. 35.2% on 2.2 attempts in 85-93' playoffs

    When he tried - he attempted less than 1.5 every year except 90' and 93' when he attempted 3+ and shot 38% and 35%


    That's without practicing or thinking he needed it to win..

    In today's game, his 3-point shot would be as elite as his fadeaway became - he'd be all-time from 3 just like midrange

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