If Lebron was really #1, he would't need more than Lowry, but unfortunately

[3ball]

So now Worthty wasn't hurt in '91 and Magic wasnt playing with AIDS?



What's next. MJ didnt really go 1-9 with 3x 1st round exits?!

Again, worthy led the Lakers with 19 on 47%, same as the regular season in 40 mpg.. He only missed game 5 after the Bulls were up 3-1

So Pippen couldn't hold Worthy below his regular season averages, injury or not.. Otoh, MJ held magic to below-par shooting

And Magic was runner-up for mvp in 1991... So again, Vlade and Perkins (17/10) were the next best players after the Magic/MJ and Worthy/Pippen matchups.. and in 1993, everyone knew the Suns were the most stacked team in the league

Every conference requires a star teammate and a great team to make the Finals, except lebron's - the 00's was peppered with weak teams making the Finals (Dwight, AI, Lebron, Kidd twice) - but even though a strong team wasn't necessary, lebron lost in 09/10 and stacked the deck to ensure Finals runs from 11-18'

[sdot_thadon]

3ball it saddens me that you project to be such a huge Mj stan but only skim the details. I'll post back here in a little bit and give you some info on Worthy in the 91 finals.

[NBAGOAT]

How did the Lakers add a 27/8/8 guy but not get better on offense? They went from 23rd in 2018 to 24th this year. Lebron Ball only benefits Lebron.

tbf hasnt the same thing happened to the raptors . 2nd to 5th.

Back to op, his problem is he like most people focuses way too much on only the top guys. If you think toronto is just kawhi and lowry, then yea you really just dont watch basketball

[3ball]

3ball it saddens me that you project to be such a huge Mj stan but only skim the details. I'll post back here in a little bit and give you some info on Worthy in the 91 finals.

Ok, in the meantime, remember that Finals Worthy was healthy enough to lead the Lakers in scoring and get his regular season numbers (19 on 47%) at 40 mog

And remember that Worthy was healthy enough for the Lakers to be big favorites by the whole media:

NBA.com history archives:

"the Bulls were considered big underdogs to the Lakers in the Finals and the vast majority of media "experts" predicted an easy Lakers' victory."

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/top-20...1-season.html/

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And remember that Pippen played all 82 games in 1991. So he didn't miss the all-star game because he didn't play or was hurt - he just missed it because people didn't think he was good enough and he wasn't in his prime yet

His rep was still suffering from his legendary choke in the prior year's game 7.

So MJ did infact win the 91' ring with a young, still-developing team, and of course, no all-stars.. NBA.com reported that the Bulls were consensus underdogs in the media heading into the 91' Finals versus the 5-time dynasty.
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[StrongLurk]

Ok, in the meantime, remember that Finals Worthy was healthy enough to lead the Lakers in scoring and get his regular season numbers (19 on 47%) at 40 mog

And remember that Worthy was healthy enough for the Lakers to be big favorites by the whole media:

NBA.com history archives:

"the Bulls were considered big underdogs to the Lakers in the Finals and the vast majority of media "experts" predicted an easy Lakers' victory."

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/top-20...1-season.html/

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And remember that Pippen played all 82 games in 1991. So he didn't miss the all-star game because he didn't play or was hurt - he just missed it because people didn't think he was good enough and he wasn't in his prime yet

His rep was still suffering from his legendary choke in the prior year's game 7.

So MJ did infact win the 91' ring with a young, still-developing team, and of course, no all-stars.. NBA.com reported that the Bulls were consensus underdogs in the media heading into the 91' Finals versus the 5-time dynasty.
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Lakers didn't even have ONE 20ppg scorer in the 91 finals?

Weak Era.

[sdot_thadon]

INGLEWOOD, Calif. -- Injured Los Angeles Lakers forward James Worthy (ankle) and shooting guard Byron Scott (shoulder) were listed as questionable for Game 5 of the NBA Finals with the Chicago Bulls tomorrow night, but of the two, Worthy seemed less likely to play.

"With a badly sprained ankle, you generally need three weeks to a month to get back, but I've only got a few days between games," said Worthy, who first injured his left ankle in Game 5 against Portland in the Western Conference finals.

He has been hobbling noticeably, and his inability to soar to the hoop for stuff shots and finger rolls has put a crimp in the Lakers' already-limited offense.

In Game 4 on Sunday, he scored 12 points, but left the court for good with 2 minutes, 49 seconds remaining in the third quarter.

That's the Lakers' Leading scorer.

Also if you can tell me about Steph being injured and Draymond missing game 5 in 2016:

please tell us about Worthy being injured and he and Scott both missing game 5 in 91.

[3ball]

That's the Lakers' Leading scorer.

Also if you can tell me about Steph being injured and Draymond missing game 5 in 2016:

please tell us about Worthy being injured and he and Scott both missing game 5 in 91.

Right, everyone knows worthy missed game 5, but they were down 3-1 anyway

But he was healthy enough to lead the Lakers with 19 on 48% just like the regular season, in 40 mpg.. to get the 3-1 deficit
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[StrongLurk]

Right, everyone knows worthy missed game 5, but they were down 3-1 anyway

But he was healthy enough to lead the Lakers with 19 on 48% just like the regular season, in 40 mpg.. to get the 3-1 deficit
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So an INJURED WORTHY was the best scorer for those Lakers in the finals?

Weak Era for elite teams...

[3ball]

So an INJURED WORTHY was the best scorer for those Lakers in the finals?

Weak Era for elite teams...

Nah, the Lakers had two 19-pt guys and two 17-pt guys

The bulls had a 31 guy and a 19-pt guy, so way less help.. (edit: pippen was at 20.8, not 19)...

But the bulls offset their talent deficit with better teamwork/better basketball, and obviously MJ

[Sportal]

Imagine being that ****ing dense that you think the Raptors team this year for Leonard is worse than last year's Cavs...

[StrongLurk]

Nah, the Lakers had two 19-pt guys and two 17-pt guys

The bulls had a 31 guy and a 19-pt guy, so way less help.. (edit: pippen was at 20.8, not 19)...

But the bulls offset their talent deficit with better teamwork/better basketball, and obviously MJ

Not discounting MJ's play, just the era in general for having weak elite teams, especially the last half of the 90's.

[3ball]

Not discounting MJ's play, just the era in general for having [COLOR="Navy"]weak elite teams[/COLOR], especially the last half of the 90's.

The bulls were weak without MJ, who faced greater talent in each of his first 3 Finals:

- Lakers had two 19-pt guys and two 17-pt guys, versus the Bulls' 31 and 19 guys

- Blazers were so stacked that they made the 90' Finals with Drexler at 3rd option averaging 18 ppg in first 3 rounds

- Everyone knows the Suns were the most stacked team in the league

So regardless of how weak you think the teams were, MJ's weak help meant he was often facing teams with better talent top to bottom

[egokiller]

Damn it wheels, get the fvck back in your wheelchair and wheel your ass out side to see the sun on this fine memorial day you pos troll!

[RRR3]

Shook? Wishing death? I was just giving him an option beyond his rather useless life trolling on ISH. But hey, do him I guess. You got guys on here talking shit on the regular about MJ being responsible for his dad's death, but THAT above is where your moral sensibilities get offended? Please....

Have a good one chico.

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[And1AllDay]

Time of possession 2019

Lebron - 6.3 minutes

Giannis - 4.6 minutes

Durant - 4.2 minutes

Kawhi - 4.0 minutes

https://stats.nba.com/players/touche..._OF_POSS&dir=1

Lebron's abnormal ball-dominance hinders the ball-movement/teamwork/team assist capacity that teammates need to play well, so ready-made superstars are required to have any chance for a contender - so he could never make it with Lowry

Lebron never made the Finals without superstars, except in 07' when everyone else was making it without them too (Dwight, AI, Kidd twice) - he infact left Cleveland because he needed superstars after losing as the favorite in 09' and 10'

Ultimately, Lebron's "spot-up shooter" brand doesn't develop young teammates or win frequently with super-teams
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