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    Quote Originally Posted by Shogon
    Hahahahaha @ the last 45 seconds.

    Holy shit LOL.

    Hahahaha
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    first obama.... now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstern
    I don't say anything that's not true. The media was talking about Lebron being the GOAT going back to 2009. And going on and on about his stats. I also used to go by stats and always had Lebron ahead of Kobe. But I also took into consideration what people like Jeff Van Gundy, Larry Bird used to say about Kobe despite it not adding up in my head. I mean, look at Lebron's numbers, he just needs more help, it seemed logical at the time. Until I finally start seeing how a Kobe Bryant could impact the outcome of games, set up his team to excel, and also seeing how a player putting up monster triple double stats could be doing less of that.

    You always have to consider what the majority of players, coaches have to say to understand that there's a bigger picture, and not just go by the more simplistic fan, media members just boiling it down to, "But he shoots 45%." The game is much more than spreadsheets.
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    first Game of Zones


    now Comedy Central



    NOBODY respects Kobrick stains

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    This is how we treat Kobe stand. 😂😂😂 no wonder they have to troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAmbruh
    first Game of Zones


    now Comedy Central



    NOBODY respects Kobrick stains
    GOZ made fun of Kobe stans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    GOZ made fun of Kobe stans?
    https://youtu.be/rdr_lE0nzWE?t=171

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstern
    I used to be for Lebron in the Kove vs Lebron debate. But like Bird said, Lebron is his favorite player, but if you want to win, you go with Kobe. Lebron benefited from playing in the weakest conference in sports history. Got lucky in two finals. As great as Lebron is, due to Lebron ball his teams as a whole are not set up to win against the toughest competition. Unless again, some luck is involved.
    Maybe you should go back and see what Bird thinks now

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAmbruh



    So accurate

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    Quote Originally Posted by FKAri
    Maybe you should go back and see what Bird thinks now
    That wouldn

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    Quote Originally Posted by FKAri
    Maybe you should go back and see what Bird thinks now
    Go back? What's going to change in terms of Bird's thinking? Back then he said that Lebron is better, one of the GOATs. But if he wants to win he would go with Kobe, if he wants to have fun he would go with Lebron.

    Lebron has lost four more times since.

    Perhaps I didn't make my point clear in my previous post, so I apologize. But the main point was that people, particularly the more casual fans are so limited in their understanding of what makes any player good. And they simply boil it down to stats.

    Not being familiar with the players they won't understand why having a Kobe might lead to more championships under similar circumstances despite having lesser stats.

    As time passes and fans become less knowledgeable of the two, Kobe is going to become more disrespected. And Lebron James more overrated due to stats that contribute less than what they show.

    It will become more about this number is > than that number, and the things that a Larry Bird, Jeff Van Gundy, and countless other players see, the reality, will mean nothing.

    It's much easier to go "This player has X amount of triple doubles," than to go in the ins and outs of their games, and how it directly led to wins.

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    Lmao at Jstern trying to act like he’s some basketball genius when he’s just using the rrrrrrrrangz argument.

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    damn Kobe

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    That was legendary

    Every sane person knows that the real GOAT debate is between Jordan and LeBron. Kobe isn't even in the conversation, he sits at the kid's table.

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