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9x All Defensive 1st
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Originally Posted by Phoenix
Nobody you mentioned on the Thunder had an ounce of experience in the finals to know how they'd respond. The Heat were the veteran team, coming off the finals , with peak Lebron considered the best player in the league, Wade was still prime, Bosh, and a much improved bench over 2011. Lebron as the recognized best player should have been enough to tip the scales. Harden put up 12/5/4 on 53% TS, and Ibaka 7/5/1 on 46% TS. You throw up Selfalosha's name as if guys like Battier, Chalmers or Mike Miller weren't effective counterpoints to someone like that. Keep your info straight before you start dropping names without looking at what those names actually did.
Since you guys like dropping GmSc, here's a look at how it panned out:
Lebron 23.6
Durant 20.7
Westbrook 18.9
Bosh 11.9
Battier 9.3
Chalmers/Harden 8.4
Ibaka 6.6
Miller 5.2
Sefolosha 3.2
Seems to me the Heat were more than fine when you got Mario Chalmers putting up the same GmSc as James Harden.
So is GmSc the best metric to use? I need to know before I respond
careful now
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Le11th
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Why do you idiots keep responding to these ****ing morons
Just leave this idiot's threads with no responses instead of being baited into 6 pages of straight jack assery
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9x All Defensive 1st
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
And dont forget this gem.
That dude straight up ended the goat debate when Mikes best finals wins was 92 blazers so get read to laugh at Mikes best finals team win:
Blazers in 92
1 all nba player: Drexler
1 all star: Drexler
Bulls in 92
2 all nba player: Mike and Pipp
2 all stars: Mike and Pipp
Not looking good Mike fans...Ready?
Warriors in 16
3 all nba players: Dray, Klay, Chef Curry
3 all stars: Dray, Klay, Chef Curry
Cavs in 16
1 all nba player: LeBron
1 all star: LeBron
sorry bro i know this morning will hurt but facts are facts
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9x All Defensive 1st
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Originally Posted by superduper
Why do you idiots keep responding to these ****ing morons
Just leave this idiot's threads with no responses instead of being baited into 6 pages of straight jack assery
are facts bait now? Get a grip superdumber
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Euros rule NBA, UMAD?
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Originally Posted by And1AllDay
So is GmSc the best metric to use? I need to know before I respond
careful now
Don't care about your bullshit. Same standards....that's all for today.
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9x All Defensive 1st
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Originally Posted by Phoenix
Don't care about your bullshit. Same standards....that's all for today.
just as i thought, never a straight answer
Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
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NBA Legend
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Originally Posted by Phoenix
This of course is factually incorrect:
https://www.thespread.com/nba-articl...over-mavericks
https://www.si.com/nba/point-forward...-antonio-spurs
Even if he was an underdog in the finals the other times, beating the Thunder was certainly no insurmountable feat and I'm not sure why they were favored anyway. It was 2012, so perhaps oddsmakers couldn't be sure if Lebron would pull a 2011 again . And really, the 2016 Cavs are underrated because of the Warriors regular season. They proved to not be nearly that dominant, something the Thunder nearly exposed before the finals.
An AD/Kawhi/Lebron trio against anyone in the league gives him the same edge you would argue Golden state has enjoyed on him when KD joined them. I expect you to hold the same standard should the Lakers breeze to a title next year.
Maybe due to OKC going 12-3 in route to the Finals that postseason? Had 3 All-NBA players that included the scoring champion while another led the league in blocks and finished runner-up for DPOY. Then also throw in them having the 6MOY.
On the other side, Miami only had Bosh for 4 of the 13 combined games of the ECSF and ECF. His health was shady heading into the Finals.
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9x All Defensive 1st
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Originally Posted by Hey Yo
Maybe due to OKC going 12-3 in route to the Finals that postseason? Had 3 All-NBA players that included the scoring champion while another led the league in blocks and finished runner-up for DPOY. Then also throw in them having the 6MOY.
On the other side, Miami only had Bosh for 4 of the 13 combined games of the ECSF and ECF. His health was shady heading into the Finals.
careful
these guys dont like facts they like emotions so they prob wont respond
they are the "you are a dumb ass fggot!!" type dudes
when the facts come up, they run out
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Euros rule NBA, UMAD?
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Originally Posted by Hey Yo
Maybe due to OKC going 12-3 in route to the Finals that postseason? Had 3 All-NBA players that included the scoring champion while another led the league in blocks and finished runner-up for DPOY. Then also throw in them having the 6MOY.
On the other side, Miami only had Bosh for 4 of the 13 combined games of the ECSF and ECF. His health was shady heading into the Finals.
Maybe. A healthy Heat squad should have been the favorite and really the series played out as it should have.
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Euros rule NBA, UMAD?
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Originally Posted by And1AllDay
careful
these guys dont like facts they like emotions so they prob wont respond
they are the "you are a dumb ass fggot!!" type dudes
when the facts come up, they run out
All I need from you is objectivity if AD/Kawhi/Lebron breeze to a title. You excuse Lebron's 1-4 against the Warriors because of a competitive/talent deficit, so I expect you to do the same for whichever team likely loses to the Lakers if Kawhi lands. I expect you to downplay Lebron winning a ring because nobody should be beating him with AD and Kawhi. That's it, you harping about MJ is immaterial to what I'm talking about, so that's your cross to bear basing your existence around that schtick.
AD/KAwhi/Lebron, competition next year. That's my point. Stay focused.
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Banned
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Originally Posted by And1AllDay
And dont forget this gem.
That dude straight up ended the goat debate when Mikes best finals wins was 92 blazers so get read to laugh at Mikes best finals team win:
Blazers in 92
1 all nba player: Drexler
1 all star: Drexler
Bulls in 92
2 all nba player: Mike and Pipp
2 all stars: Mike and Pipp
Not looking good Mike fans...Ready?
Warriors in 16
3 all nba players: Dray, Klay, Chef Curry
3 all stars: Dray, Klay, Chef Curry
Cavs in 16
1 all nba player: LeBron
1 all star: LeBron
sorry bro i know this morning will hurt but facts are facts
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Anybody?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Originally Posted by Hey Yo
Maybe due to OKC going 12-3 in route to the Finals that postseason? Had 3 All-NBA players that included the scoring champion while another led the league in blocks and finished runner-up for DPOY. Then also throw in them having the 6MOY.
On the other side, Miami only had Bosh for 4 of the 13 combined games of the ECSF and ECF. His health was shady heading into the Finals.
No one thought Westbrook > Wade back then, or Ibaka > Bosh
Wade and Bosh were easily considered better than both
The heat had better talent than okc but their super-team was still underdogs because of Lebron's repeated failures up to that point.. no one was willing to bet on Lebron at that point...
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Banned
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Originally Posted by 3ball
No one thought Westbrook > Wade back then, or Ibaka > Bosh
Wade and Bosh were easily considered better than both
The heat had better talent than okc but their super-team was still underdogs because of Lebron's significant history of failure up to that point.. no one was willing to bet on Lebron at that point...
12-3 OKC run to the Final
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Originally Posted by 3ball
How could you let yourself get lied to by the dumb media??... Doesn't that make you feel dumb and weak? ..
😂😂😂
You do know who you're a fan of right?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Originally Posted by SpaceJam2
12-3 OKC run to the Final
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The Heat had a "not 6, not 7" super-team and should never have been underdogs
But they were underdogs because of Lebron's repeated failures up to that point.. no one was willing to bet on Lebron at that point...
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