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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Without trolling, can anyone refute this thesis intro on why Lebron isn't top 10?
theres never been a dude that's been ranked above all those who consistently embarrassed his teams...
from duncan to kawhi to curry to durant to dirk all these guys are supposedly ranked below Lebron yet they each had his number and won against him way more than he did against them. this was all when he had super teams wade, kyrie, bosh love etc. not even getting into what he did on mediocre squads.. where he still lost to the likes of dwight & nobodies.
In a vacuum Bran's talent is GOAT, but intangibly (monopolization style + off court manipulation) hes so much worse than his peers, that they make up the difference and lap him.
thats the truth... but hes a media cash cow and they promote what they have to to make money.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Without trolling, can anyone refute this thesis intro on why Lebron isn't top 10?
Originally Posted by tpols
theres never been a dude that's been ranked above all those who consistently embarrassed his teams...
from duncan to kawhi to curry to durant to dirk all these guys are supposedly ranked below Lebron yet they each had his number and won against him way more than he did against them. this was all when he had super teams wade, kyrie, bosh love etc. not even getting into what he did on mediocre squads.. where he still lost to the likes of dwight & nobodies.
In a vacuum Bran's talent is GOAT, but intangibly (monopolization style + off court manipulation) hes so much worse than his peers, that they make up the difference and lap him.
thats the truth... but hes a media cash cow and they promote what they have to to make money.
Isiah Thomas has a 3-1 series record against Jordan & Bird owned Jordan everytime they played also Jordan had a losing record against Hakeem as well when they played in the regular season
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Without trolling, can anyone refute this thesis intro on why Lebron isn't top 10?
Originally Posted by Manny98
Isiah Thomas has a 3-1 series record against Jordan & Bird owned Jordan everytime they played also Jordan had a losing record against Hakeem as well when they played in the regular season
IT and bird both beat jordan when he was playing with scrub teams ala young lebron. Once he had competent help he dominated everybody...
All the guys i listed that punked bran did it after he formed super teams.
****ing dwayne wade a top 15-20 player of all time, 3 other all NBAers in their primes and he was getting punked.
sorry bro...
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Without trolling, can anyone refute this thesis intro on why Lebron isn't top 10?
Originally Posted by tpols
theres never been a dude that's been ranked above all those who consistently embarrassed his teams...
from duncan to kawhi to curry to durant to dirk all these guys are supposedly ranked below Lebron yet they each had his number and won against him way more than he did against them. this was all when he had super teams wade, kyrie, bosh love etc. not even getting into what he did on mediocre squads.. where he still lost to the likes of dwight & nobodies.
In a vacuum Bran's talent is GOAT, but intangibly (monopolization style + off court manipulation) hes so much worse than his peers, that they make up the difference and lap him.
thats the truth... but hes a media cash cow and they promote what they have to to make money.
Won way more against him?
Duncan is 2-1
Kawhi is 1-1
Curry is 3-1
Durant is 2-1
You bring up super teams, yet it was Duncan/Kawhi & Curry/Durant paired up going against LeBron, with the likes of Parker/Manu & Klay/Dray as support
And which super teams are you referencing exactly. 2007? 2015? 2018?
The facts are, Curry/Durant are 2-0 against LeBron together, 1-2 against him solo, while Duncan beat him on the clearly superior team in '07, a series he didn't even win FMVP
2011 is obviously the humiliating defeat which would meet the criteria you described
That's not to mention you'd of course bring up losing to Dwight, but completely gloss over Duncan & Dirk losing to 8 seeds
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Without trolling, can anyone refute this thesis intro on why Lebron isn't top 10?
Originally Posted by tpols
IT and bird both beat jordan when he was playing with scrub teams ala young lebron. Once he had competent help he dominated everybody...
All the guys i listed that punked bran did it after he formed super teams.
****ing dwayne wade a top 15-20 player of all time, 3 other all NBAers in their primes and he was getting punked.
sorry bro...
So context only matters if it applies to Jordan
He lost in 2015 because Matthew f*cking Dellavadova was his second option
2017 & 2018 he was going up against a against a 70 win team that added the greatest scorer the league has ever seen. Replace LeBron with anyone and the Warriors are still winning
Duncan & LeBron are pretty much even since 2007 doesn't count because LeBron was a baby just like MJ was against Bird plus Hughes was hurt that series
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