Why did Curry win 70 with Klay/Dray and have a goat offense, while

[3ball]

Why did the Bulls win 55 games without MJ

The exact same roster that began a three-peat in 1991 only won 47 games in 1989, and would've missed the 45-win playoff cut without MJ's 33/8/8.

So that was a lottery cast in 1989 that developed the teamwork to win in 1991, and 3-peat by 1993 (exact same roster from 1989)

So when you ask how the bulls won 55 without mj, we know it wasn't due to a talent-rich roster because those were lottery rosters that developed great teamwork - the bulls won 55 games due to teamwork developed by 3-peating with MJ, not talent

while every team LeBron left turned into a lottery team?

The 2011 Cavs lost Mo Williams, Shaq, Varejao, Zydrunas and Delonte, who accounted for 52 ppg, versus lebron's 30.. It's an often-repeated lie those Cavs only lost Lebron...

The 15' Heat missed the playoffs by 1/2 game, and obviously would've made it if all-stars Wade/Bosh didn't miss 40 games.

And the 18' Cavs were missing Love, so that's like the 94' Bulls missing Pippen.. You're simply biased for lebron and ignoring the facts, thereby overrating him.. i bet you predicted victories for most of Lebron's Finals losses.. lol

[RRR3]

I just tallied it up and 3ball has made 230 threads (could have miscounted for sure, so that number might not be exact but it’s definitely close) that mention LeBron by name, nickname or derogatory nickname in the title. This doesn’t include threads that got deleted or the many many threads that are about LeBron that just don’t mention him in the title (like this one). To be fair some of the threads that mention LeBron weren’t necessarily about him but the overwhelming majority were.











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[SouBeachTalents]

[QUOTE=RRR3]I just tallied it up and 3ball has made 230 threads (could have miscounted for sure, so that number might not be exact but it

[RRR3]

He legit could have made 400+ threads about LeBron to date.

[ArbitraryWater]

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]Shaq/Kobe won 60 twice in 8 years together, once in the 6 years Kobe became the starter. Just another example of you not knowing what you

[sdot_thadon]

Why did the Bulls win 55 games without MJ while every team LeBron left turned into a lottery team?

I heard they were able to do it replacing MJ's "goat offense " with a Cba player who put up only 7.9 ppg. And sent 3 guys to the allstar game? Is this true Op?

[superduper]

I heard they were able to do it replacing MJ's "goat offense " with a Cba player who put up only 7.9 ppg. And sent 3 guys to the allstar game? Is this true Op?

Lakers in 2018 before LeGOAT- 35 wins
Lakers in 2019 WITH LeGOAT- ??

[NBAGOAT]

you underrate draymond quite simply lol and overrate rs kyrie possibly. Add on 15-16 is peak curry, yea those rs are better than those of lebron's in cle.

Cavs were worse than the warriors and other great 60+ win teams mainly because of defense. Lebron missing 13 in 15 is kind of big considering they went 50-19 with him. They "only" won 57 in 16 because kyrie missed 30 games and was rusty during the rs, the year bron didnt coast in cle. lebron and some others were coasting in 17. they obviously picked it up in the playoffs in 16 and 17. 18 is kind of irrelevant with bron/love as the only 2 stars.

This is obvious from the chart at the bottom here https://fansided.com/2018/04/16/nylo...gth-standings/.

It's not uncommon with contenders who've been together for years to coast however. How does a team with curry, kd, draymond, klay only win 57 games and hover around average defensively. how does a bad boys team with 3hofers and 5 former/future all stars and goat defensive talent not win in the 65 range for multiple years? How does shaq/kobe only win 50 games in 03 etc

[Manny98]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...nses_by_rortg/

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[Young X]

Because Stephen that year had the GOAT offensive season. No shame in not having a season that explosive offensively, nobody does.

[Young X]

Stephen that year took 20 shots a game and shot a 63 eFG%.

Him shooting a ****ing long distance jumpshot was a better shot than Shaq attempting a layup. That's UNBELIEVABLE.

[NBAGOAT]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...nses_by_rortg/

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we cant just base offenses off playoff performance however, there's a sample size issue. I do agree playoff lebron was a thing from 16-18, even on offense.

As Young X said, curry rs' from 15-16 is goat lvl(he's been underrated since durant joined too honestly). Unless you overemphasize the playoffs, you can comfortably argue curry at least those 2 years is clearly better than cle lebron

[Young X]

Stephen that year took 20 shots a game and shot a 63 eFG%.

Him shooting a ****ing long distance jumpshot was a better shot than Shaq attempting a layup. That's UNBELIEVABLE.

To add on to this, he also shot 91% from the line. So obviously unlike Shaq, you couldn't even foul him.

And he even hit 30+ footers too. So how the **** are you supposed to defend him?

So basically, as soon as he steps inside the halfcourt, you're already dead.

No player has ever been as threatening on offense as Curry was that regular season.

[Manny98]

we cant just base offenses off playoff performance however, there's a sample size issue. I do agree playoff lebron was a thing from 16-18, even on offense.

As Young X said, curry rs' from 15-16 is goat lvl(he's been underrated since durant joined too honestly). Unless you overemphasize the playoffs, you can comfortably argue curry at least those 2 years is clearly better than cle lebron

Playoffs is what separates the Harden Rockets & The Nash Suns to the 01 Lakers and the LeBron, Kyrie Cavs

Championships are won in the postseason so if your teams offense can't translate into the games that matter the most then It's not a truly elite offense

[sdot_thadon]

Lakers in 2018 before LeGOAT- 35 wins
Lakers in 2019 WITH LeGOAT- ??

That would be a perfectly relevant response if somehow 93 Mj missed around 30 games.

Or better yet if 4 of the top 5 guys minutes wise all missed around 30 games in 93. But holding true to your idiotic rep, none of that is the case so stupor duper gonna stupor duper.