The difference between 6/6 and 3/9

[ImKobe]

Jordan is 6/6 because he faced WEAK finals competition the weakest of anyone in the top 10 like how do are you going to lose against a team with Jeff Hornacek as your second scoring option or a Lakers team that was crippled with injuries.

LeBron is 3/9 because

2007 - he was massive underdog going into the finals as he took the worst cast in history to the finals + his second option Hughes was hurt

2011 - he choked simple as that

2014 - Wades knees broke down and that Heat team was old af outside of LeBron

2015 - Kyrie + Love injured

2017 - 3 stars vs 4 stars the Warriors simply had more talent

2018 - 1 star vs 4 stars the Warriors simply had more talent

So 2011 was the only finals in which LeBron underperformed

LeBron will win 2 of the next 3 as he actually has a team with good talent around him

He flat out played terribly in 2007 and 2011, 2015 he had a 2 - 1 lead with Game 4 at home and put up one of his worst Playoff performances while he had a big man putting up elite numbers, completely choked in a game that would have put him up 3 - 1 against an inexperienced Warriors squad. Iguodala outplayed him in the 3 straight losses.

His team was good enough to win in 2017 but he choked in crunch time of Game 3 and played his worst defense in that Finals with his opponents shooting over 60% while being guarded by him.

[3ball]

the time you waste to suck(defend) his d*ck with ur long a*s posts is hilarious

Look how much worse 07' and 08' Lebron shot and played against the champs than 19' Giannis, yet you label Giannis "exposed" and pat Lebron on the back...

I have to point out your misperception..

[eliteballer]

Savage.

[FromDowntown]

You're ignoring reality

Everyone knows that his "not 6, not 7" Heat had the most talent in the league from 2011-2014, and his 2016 Cavs saw their 2nd option demolish the Warriors' 1st option...

In other words, Lebron had Big 3 superteams and can't complain about facing talent deficits - it's his opponents that can complain about facing talent deficits to his colluded, stacked deck teams

Ultimately, Lebron had his own Big 3's and only faced a talent deficit in 07', 15', and 18'...

17' is debatable and the goat is supposed to make up for differences anyway - the fact that he never did shows he isn't the goat.. the only talent deficit he overcame was the 2007 ECF, and MJ overcame much bigger talent deficits then that - let me know if you need me to specify with all the relevant stats and proof



Facing great teams is no excuse for not having a great team yourself that can compete EVENLY - but Lebron is 2-5 against the best teams of the era (Spurs/Warriors), so Lebron failed to compete at an elite standard (let alone a goat standard)

2012 and 2013 you are right the Heat were pretty stacked, but not 2011 and definitely not 2014 dont you remember Dwyane was a shell of himself and Ray Allen was getting older. Hell he was already old in 2013.

2011 had Joel Anthony starting at center and Carlos Arroyo starting at Point. That team was not stacked and that was before pieces like Chris Andersen and Ray Allen.