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    What a monster he was. Boxscore watchers may not understand his real value.

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    Everyone has highlights, but Pippen has the most number of horrible performances ever:


    1988 PLAYOFFS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 10.0 on 46.5%

    1989 PLAYOFFS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 13.1 on 46.2%

    1990 ECF[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] vs[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] DET:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.6 on 42.8%

    1992 ECSF vs NYN:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.0 on 40.2%

    1993 RD 1 vs. ATL:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15.0 on 42.2%

    1995 ECSF vs ORL:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 19.0 on 40.9%

    1996 ECSF vs NYN:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15.6 on 33.0%
    1996 FINAL vs SEA:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15.7 on 34.3%

    1997 RD 1 vs WAS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.7 on 38.3%
    1997 ECF[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] vs. MIA:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.8 on 41.7%

    1998 ECF[COLOR="White"]S[/COLOR] vs[COLOR="White"]N[/COLOR] IND:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.6 on 39.2%
    1998 FINAL vs UTA:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15.7 on 41.0%



    Pippen's defense only gave Bulls the 7th, 4th, and 7th best defenses from 91-93', so
    why do we say Pippen's defense makes up for his many series of 15 ppg on 33-40%???

    (bulls' defensive rankings from 1st three-peat are used because that's Pip's stand alone impact without Rodman)

    [COLOR="Navy"]Garnett, Duncan, Payton and others were equal or better defenders than Pippen, and we'd never accept 15 on 33% from them in their prime.. that would be massive black marks on their careers forever

    Pippen's many horrific series should be looked at the same way (as black marks)[/COLOR]
    - this would elevate MJ more for carrying the offense with goat scoring, while achieving the goat scoring in a system designed for role players (elevating teammates)..

    Ultimately, MJ won as "the man" twice as much as anyone in modern history (6 rings to 3), while being #1 in PPG, efficiency rating, and 2-way accolades - but this unmatchable goat resume gets underrated because of shenanigans like overrating Pippen above the help that others had

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
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    Everyone has highlights, but Pippen has the most number of horrible performances ever:


    1988 PLAYOFFS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 10.0 on 46.5%

    1989 PLAYOFFS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 13.1 on 46.2%

    1990 ECF[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] vs[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] DET:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.6 on 42.8%

    1992 ECSF vs NYN:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.0 on 40.2%

    1993 RD 1 vs. ATL:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15.0 on 42.2%

    1995 ECSF vs ORL:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 19.0 on 40.9%

    1996 ECSF vs NYN:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15.6 on 33.0%
    1996 FINAL vs SEA:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15.7 on 34.3%

    1997 RD 1 vs WAS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.7 on 38.3%
    1997 ECF[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] vs. MIA:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.8 on 41.7%

    1998 ECF[COLOR="White"]S[/COLOR] vs[COLOR="White"]N[/COLOR] IND:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.6 on 39.2%
    1998 FINAL vs UTA:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15.7 on 41.0%



    Pippen's defense only gave Bulls the 7th, 4th, and 7th best defenses from 91-93', so
    why do we say Pippen's defense makes up for his many series of 15 ppg on 33-40%???

    (bulls' defensive rankings from 1st three-peat are used because that's Pip's stand alone impact without Rodman)

    [COLOR="Navy"]Garnett, Duncan, Payton and others were equal or better defenders than Pippen, and we'd never accept 15 on 33% from them in their prime.. that would be massive black marks on their careers forever

    Pippen's many horrific series should be looked at the same way (as black marks)[/COLOR]
    - this would elevate MJ more for carrying the offense with goat scoring, while achieving the goat scoring in a system designed for role players (elevating teammates)..

    Ultimately, MJ won as "the man" twice as much as anyone in modern history (6 rings to 3), while being #1 in PPG, efficiency rating, and 2-way accolades - but this unmatchable goat resume gets underrated because of shenanigans like overrating Pippen above the help that others had

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    When you are such an obsessed worthless fakkot you have to bury every single player who ever played with your crush. It's five years later and you are still spending hours upon the day with this bullshit. I digress, though. Be you , bro.

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    Voted one of the 50 greatest ever just 9 years into his career for a reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    Voted one of the 50 greatest ever just 9 years into his career for a reason
    Yeah because he was as lucky enough to land next to the goat, so his ordinary stats look extra special

    Otherwise he'd be just another 17 ppg great athlete like Jeff Green... I'd say Jimmy Butler but Butler became a much better offensive player - Pippen needed MJ to give his Jeff Green scoring ability a 6-time champion ring to it

    But guys like Garnett, Duncan, Payton and others were equal or better defenders than Pippen, yet we'd never accept 15 on 33% from them in their prime.. that would be massive black marks on their careers forever

    Accordingly, Pippen's many horrific series should be looked at the same way (as black marks).. it's amazing that anyone could win 6 rings with such anemic offensive help from a #2 option.. you would think that a 6-time champion #2 option would average 27 or 29 like Wade/Kyrie.. not 15 on 33% many times over
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    There's a reason his the best SF of the 90's

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam

    There's a reason his the best SF of the 90's
    Wade is the #2 shooting guard ever (excluding mj)

    Pippen is nowhere near the #2 SF - Bird, Durant, Lebron, Kawhi, Dr. J.... So not even top 5... Elgin Baylor was also better (38/18) and many more


    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam


    - could Pippen lead his team to the Finals twice, average 26 vs the Bad Boys, or 25-30 vs MJ and others?... So how can he match Drexler?...

    - can he have numerous 55-win seasons and make the conference finals after beating Magic's 1 seed, while routinely getting 22/11 apg in his sleep?... - so how is he better than KJ??

    - can he win FMVP or average 26 ppg as 1st option in various series over Kareem and Magic??.. So how is he better than worthy?

    - Could he have a legendary duel with Bird in the playoffs like Dominique?


    Ultimately, take the 6 rings away and just look at his game and stats - many guys were better, but they didn't get their resume boosted by the goat..

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen Top 50 Nba Finals

    MJ couldn't win without a top 10 all time teammate at his position

    Bron did

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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen Top 50 Nba Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam
    MJ couldn't win without a top 10 all time teammate at his position

    Bron did
    Lebron can't win without a top 3 all-time SG, or the best 2nd option performance ever

    and he needs a top 3 PF in the league as 3rd option on top of that

    That's more help than MJ, even without considering bron's superior rim protection teammates and among the best 3-point shooting in the league... ... It's not even close

    It's so dumb for lebron fans to argue about supporting cast - no one had more help than LeDecision

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    Rings without a top 10 teammate at their position.

    MJ - 0
    Bron - 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball

    It's so dumb for lebron fans to argue about supporting cast - no one had more help than LeDecision
    Incorrect. Noone had more help than Durant. 2017 Warriors. Stacked.


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    Default Re: Scottie Pippen Top 50 Nba Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam
    Rings without a top 10 teammate at their position.

    MJ - 0
    Bron - 1
    Rings without a top 3 SG, or the goat 2nd option performance:

    Bron - 0
    MJ - 6


    Rings without a top 4 PF in the league:

    Bron - 0
    MJ - 6


    Rings without good rim protection and/or nearly the best 3-pt shooting in the league:

    Bron - 0
    MJ - 6
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    Rings without Phil Jackson.

    MJ - 0
    Bron - 3

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