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    Default Re: During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

    Quote Originally Posted by Rico2016
    Who didn't know Jordan was a terrible shooter? The Gatorade and Nike myths need to stop once and for all. He was hyped up before social media could really figure out the truth.

    Jordan was an elite level scorer and a good defender (LeBron is elite at both)
    Jordan was an elite dunker with elite athleticism (Same for LeBron)
    Jordan was a terrible shooter (LeBron is a great shooter)
    Jordan was a terrible teammate (LeBron is elite)

    The Gatorade hype myths stop NOW

    Let it be known, Jordan cannot shoot

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    Default Re: During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

    So? MJ constantly refined his game. You could say he had 3 different primes.

    85-89 Super athletic, take it to the rack, hangtime, Come Fly With Me mode

    96-98 Athletic but mostly a master technician, dominant from the mid-post, unblockable fadeaway shot, surveyed the defense and picked his spots

    90-93, 95 Mixture of (85-89) and (96-98), widely considered the best version of MJ

    He won scoring titles in all three dispensations, meaning he dominated multiple ways. Defenders couldn't stop him when he took it to the rack, hung in the air, pulled up or posted up. Didn't matter.

    He was a top tier perimeter defender in all 3 dispensations.

    Pick a year, any year. He was dominating the league from a personal standpoint and he dominated from a team standpoint in the last 2.

    Who cares if he was only shooting 16% from 3 when he was averaging 37 a game and would transform his game enough to still be dominating the league a decade later?

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    Default Re: During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

    Quote Originally Posted by chains5000
    It's always someone else's fault
    Did the so-called superstars put up superstar numbers or not?

    If it was James' fault in 2011, then it was definitely Bosh and Wade's fault in 2014.

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    Default Re: During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    Did the so-called superstars put up superstar numbers or not?

    If it was James' fault in 2011, then it was definitely Bosh and Wade's fault in 2014.

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    Default Re: During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Feeny
    So he couldn't elevate 2 elite players who were weaker than anyone Kawhi had at that point?
    We know! That's another reason Kawhi is better.
    Why would 2 "elite" superstars need elevated in the Finals???

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    Default Re: During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

    Quote Originally Posted by chains5000
    You're welcome for the facts that couldn't be refuted.

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    Default Re: During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Yo
    You're welcome for the facts that couldn't be refuted.
    It's funny how it's only Lebron's teammates the ones who don't deliver.

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    Default Re: During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

    Quote Originally Posted by chains5000
    It's funny how it's only Lebron's teammates the ones who don't deliver.
    It's funny how James gets all the blame for 2011 but Wade and Bosh get no blame in 2014 when they don't deliver.

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    Default Re: During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    You on about the 2014 Finals where he shot 52% from 3 that series? So no it didn't work

    The only time MJ could dream of shooting 3s like LeBron is with a shortened 3 point line
    Lol, so dumb

    It worked, they sagged off him to dare him to beat them with his jumper, took away his drive to the rim. So he shot 52% from beyond the three point line...how many 3pters per game did he take? 5 per game, lol. Still didn't make up the difference if to make the Spurs respect his mid range game, took away his penetration to the rim and the Spurs whooped that ass...so no, the Spurs strategy did work.

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    Default Re: During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan
    Lol, so dumb

    It worked, they sagged off him to dare him to beat them with his jumper, took away his drive to the rim. So he shot 52% from beyond the three point line...how many 3pters per game did he take? 5 per game, lol. Still didn't make up the difference if to make the Spurs respect his mid range game, took away his penetration to the rim and the Spurs whooped that ass...so no, the Spurs strategy did work.
    He averaged 28 off 57% from the f*cking field and he takes 5 3s a game anyway so the Spurs didn't do shit

    The Heat lost because Wade and Bosh played like shit and the Spurs were scorching hot from 3

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    Default Re: During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan
    Lol, so dumb

    It worked, they sagged off him to dare him to beat them with his jumper, took away his drive to the rim. So he shot 52% from beyond the three point line...how many 3pters per game did he take? 5 per game, lol. Still didn't make up the difference if to make the Spurs respect his mid range game, took away his penetration to the rim and the Spurs whooped that ass...so no, the Spurs strategy did work.
    Lebron was rather ineffective when the games were still close. He was on the floor when they had already blown the lead in Game 1, he didn't do much of anything when the score was close from Games 3-5. The boxscore numbers are meaningless without context. He did most of his damage down big in those games.

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    Default Re: During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe
    Lebron was rather ineffective when the games were still close. He was on the floor when they had already blown the lead in Game 1, he didn't do much of anything when the score was close from Games 3-5. The boxscore numbers are meaningless without context. He did most of his damage down big in those games.
    Exactly, LeStans always looking for excuses. I recall people here saying that James just never seemed to be capable of putting his team on his back, imposing his will like other greats have. Nice empty stats. The talent differential between both teams were not equal to the whipping the Heat got, I mean this was old ass Spurs and a young Kawhi ffs

    The strategy worked because the Spurs knew that James jumper is inconsistent, they'd rather see him taking uncontested mid-range jumpers and chucking threes than get up on him and have him drive to the hoop to get layups, fouls or passes to teammates. The Spurs strategy worked.

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    Default Re: During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

    Another day another Bran alt screaming to himself 20x a day that Bran's the GOAT!!!!

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    Default Re: During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

    People here are either retarded or have the memories of goldfish. The Spurs weren’t sagging off LeBron in 2014, I literally remember Kawhi fighting through a screen to contest a LeBron 3.

    Stop confusing 2013 with 2014. His jumper was as good as its ever been in the 14 playoffs.

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    Default Re: During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe
    Lebron was rather ineffective when the games were still close. He was on the floor when they had already blown the lead in Game 1, he didn't do much of anything when the score was close from Games 3-5. The boxscore numbers are meaningless without context. He did most of his damage down big in those games.
    More lies, LeBron scored 17 of his 31 points in game 5 in the first quarter

    The Heat had a 115 DRTG with the LeBron on the court and a 130 DRTG when LeBron sat the Heat basically were getting absolutely torched whenever LeBron.

    Wade was f*cking dogshit the entire series and shot 7-25 in the final 2 games and was getting cooked on defense by Mills and Manu the whole entire series

    Bosh was a complete non factor he didn't do f*ck all either

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