View Poll Results: Was 9/11 a premeditated catastrophe to justify American foreign policy?

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    Question Was 9/11 conceived predominantly by American interests?

    The answer is Yes.

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    Default Re: Was 9/11 conceived predominantly by American interests?

    let's be honest .. yes .. I don't know about 'american' but that shit didn't go down the way they said it did

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    Default Re: Was 9/11 conceived predominantly by American interests?

    Of course

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    Default Re: Was 9/11 conceived predominantly by American interests?

    No.

    The government has done some sketchy things, but 911 wasn't one of them.

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    Default Re: Was 9/11 conceived predominantly by American interests?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlternativeAcc.
    No.

    The government has done some sketchy things, but 911 wasn't one of them.


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    Default Re: Was 9/11 conceived predominantly by American interests?

    Quote Originally Posted by dude77
    Convincing argument.

    There's getting away with murder and then there's getting away with... 5,000 murders.

    Believing it was a conspiracy with no real evidence is a stupid reach made by stupid people.

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    Default Re: Was 9/11 conceived predominantly by American interests?

    bush + saudi tag team hit job = big oil profit.

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    Default Re: Was 9/11 conceived predominantly by American interests?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlternativeAcc.
    Convincing argument.

    There's getting away with murder and then there's getting away with... 5,000 murders.

    Believing it was a conspiracy with no real evidence is a stupid reach made by stupid people.

    mate do you know how many people have died in wars in the last 100 years?

    100s of millions.

    Stop being naive.

    drop in the pot.

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    Default Re: Was 9/11 conceived predominantly by American interests?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlternativeAcc.
    Convincing argument.

    There's getting away with murder and then there's getting away with... 5,000 murders.

    Believing it was a conspiracy with no real evidence is a stupid reach made by stupid people.

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    Default Re: Was 9/11 conceived predominantly by American interests?

    Are we really supposed to believe one of the most incompetent administrations in US history could pull off one of the biggest mass murders ever with impunity?


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    Default Re: Was 9/11 conceived predominantly by American interests?

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    mate do you know how many people have died in wars in the last 100 years?

    100s of millions.

    Stop being naive.

    drop in the pot.
    Because people have died in wars that means the US killed 5000 of its own people under the guise of a terrorist attack

    Sick logic

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    Default Re: Was 9/11 conceived predominantly by American interests?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlternativeAcc.
    Because people have died in wars that means the US killed 5000 of its own people under the guise of a terrorist attack

    Sick logic

    ww2, potato famine, holodomor tell me more mate.

    millions sacrificed.

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    Default Re: Was 9/11 conceived predominantly by American interests?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlternativeAcc.
    Convincing argument.

    There's getting away with murder and then there's getting away with... 5,000 murders.

    Believing it was a conspiracy with no real evidence is a stupid reach made by stupid people.
    This.

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    Default Re: Was 9/11 conceived predominantly by American interests?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlternativeAcc.
    Are we really supposed to believe one of the most incompetent administrations in US history could pull off one of the biggest mass murders ever with impunity?


    The neoconservative thinktank Project for the New American Century basically outlined a plan for America to do EVERYTHING it did post-9/11, before 9/11 happened. Numerous members of PNAC were actually IN the Bush foreign policy cabinet. It was even stated in their missive that such goals were unlikely attainable, short of some major national catastrophe.


    One of the PNAC's most influential publications was a 90-page report titled Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces, and Resources For a New Century. Citing the PNAC's 1997 Statement of Principles, Rebuilding America's Defenses asserted that the United States should "seek to preserve and extend its position of global leadership" by "maintaining the preeminence of U.S. military forces." The report's primary author was Thomas Donnelly who began living as a transwoman in October 2018, taking the name Giselle. Donald Kagan and Gary Schmitt are credited as project chairmen. It also lists the names of 27 other participants who contributed papers or attended meetings related to the production of the report, six of whom subsequently assumed key defense and foreign policy positions in the Bush administration.[46][47] It suggested that the preceding decade had been a time of peace and stability, which had provided "the geopolitical framework for widespread economic growth" and "the spread of American principles of liberty and democracy." The report warned that "no moment in international politics can be frozen in time; even a global Pax Americana will not preserve itself.

    According to the report, current levels of defense spending were insufficient, forcing policymakers "to try ineffectually to "manage" increasingly large risks." The result, it suggested, was a form "paying for today's needs by shortchanging tomorrow's; withdrawing from constabulary missions to retain strength for large-scale wars; "choosing" between presence in Europe or presence in Asia; and so on." All of these, the report asserted, were "bad choices" and "false economies," which did little to promote long-term American interests. "The true cost of not meeting our defense requirements," the report argued, "will be a lessened capacity for American global leadership and, ultimately, the loss of a global security order that is uniquely friendly to American principles and prosperity."[45]

    Rebuilding America's Defenses recommended establishing four core missions for US military forces: the defense of the "American homeland," the fighting and winning of "multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars," the performance of "'constabular' duties associated with shaping the security environment" in key regions, and the transformation of US forces "to exploit the 'revolution in military affairs.'" Its specific recommendations included the maintenance of US nuclear superiority, an increase of the active personnel strength of the military from 1.4 to 1.6 million people, the redeployment of US forces to Southeast Europe and Asia, and the "selective" modernization of US forces. The report advocated the cancellation of "roadblock" programs such as the Joint Strike Fighter (which it argued would absorb "exorbitant" amounts of Pentagon funding while providing limited gains), but favored the development of "global missile defenses," and the control of "space and cyberspace," including the creation of a new military service with the mission of "space control." To help achieve these aims, Rebuilding America's Defenses advocated a gradual increase in military and defense spending "to a minimum level of 3.5 to 3.8 percent of gross domestic product, adding $15 billion to $20 billion to total defense spending annually.[45]

    [quote]Written before the September 11 attacks, and during political debates of the War in Iraq, a section of Rebuilding America's Defenses entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force" became the subject of considerable controversy: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."[45] Journalist John Pilger pointed to this passage when he argued that Bush administration had used the events of September 11 as an opportunity to capitalize on long-desired plans.[48]

    Some critics went further, asserting that Rebuilding America's Defenses should be viewed as a program for global American hegemony. Writing in Der Spiegel in 2003, Jochen B

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    Default Re: Was 9/11 conceived predominantly by American interests?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proctor
    This.


    As if your opinion means shit

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