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    Question Are T2 and Aliens the only sequels arguably better than the originals?

    T2 is better than T1

    Aliens is debatable

    Is there any other franchises that improved as sequels went on?

    Shout out to Die Hard 3, perhaps the goat 3rd installment

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    Default Re: Are T2 and Aliens the only sequels arguably better than the originals?

    Terminator 1 is better than Terminator 2

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    Default Re: Are T2 and Aliens the only sequels arguably better than the originals?

    Both are top ten all time.

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    Default Re: Are T2 and Aliens the only sequels arguably better than the originals?

    Lord of the rings
    Batman series (Dark Knight better than the Batman Begins)
    Bourne series

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    Default Re: Are T2 and Aliens the only sequels arguably better than the originals?

    fletch lives... im jes bullshittin.

    Aliens is better imo. A lot of people like the thrill of Alien but it was meh to me. I'm gonna think of one tho hold up.

    I also agree t2 is better.

    I've never seen any of that harry potter or lotr shit so I can't comment on that.

    O yea, star wars ez. Star wars 1 was kinda trash. Just watched it recently on tv for luls. Looking at this list to refresh my mind. I considered lethal weapon 2, but I think 1 was better.

    I think you gotta qualify it with 'that the first movie was good.' People have hot shots... I dunno. Naked gun tho, perhaps.

    Dudes actually said blade runner, stop it.

    I dunno how anyone can think t1 is better than t2 tho.

    -Smak

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    Default Re: Are T2 and Aliens the only sequels arguably better than the originals?

    T1 and Alien 1 were both better than the sequels.

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    Default Re: Are T2 and Aliens the only sequels arguably better than the originals?

    Quote Originally Posted by ILLsmak

    I dunno how anyone can think t1 is better than t2 tho.
    T1 had a horror/terror element that's completely missing in T2. T2 is an action movie of the 80's/early 90's type. Nothing wrong with that; its one of the best movies of that type. T1 also had action but it also had this claustrophobic feeling of terror and doom slowly closing in. The Terminator was out there, it would eventually find Sarah and Reese, and when it did, what could they possibly do about it? Seemed like they were completely screwed. T2 doesn't have that. I never got the sense that John Connor was in any danger when the T-1000 wasn't around. And even when he was, the fact that John had his own Terminator to protect him took away a lot of the suspense. It was "Meh, nothing Arnie cant handle."

    Arnie's Terminator was scary as hell. The T-1000 is more of a "cool" villain, like the Joker or Ivan Drago. You almost want to root for him. You want him to show up on screen to see what crazy shit he'd do next.

    T2 also lightened up the dark elements that T1 had. Like when John teaches the Terminator catch phrases. I guess it worked, it provided comic relief, but I'm not sure that's right for Terminator movie. I prefer the dark, miserable, hopeless atmosphere of T1.

    There are other reasons but those are the main ones.

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    Default Re: Are T2 and Aliens the only sequels arguably better than the originals?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnySic
    T1 and Alien 1 were both better than the sequels.
    probably not

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    Default Re: Are T2 and Aliens the only sequels arguably better than the originals?

    One final note on T2; it has a gigantic plot hole/logic error that's hard for me to overlook. At the end, when the T-1000 is threatening Sarah and tells her to"call to John". Why did he even bother doing that? He could have killed her, disguised himself as her, and used her voice to call John himself. Like he did earlier on the phone after he killed John's parents. Just some lazy writing there.

    I dunno, hopefully that doesn't ruin the movie for anyone.

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    Default Re: Are T2 and Aliens the only sequels arguably better than the originals?

    To answer OP's question - I'm not a Star Trek guy, but imo Wrath of Khan > 1.

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    Default Re: Are T2 and Aliens the only sequels arguably better than the originals?

    Quote Originally Posted by keep-itreal
    Terminator 1 is better than Terminator 2
    this.

    Also, Toy Story 2
    Dark Knight
    Spiderman 2
    Empire Strikes Back
    Dawn of the Planet of the Apes
    Shrek 2
    Back to the Future 2
    X2
    Harry Potter

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    Default Re: Are T2 and Aliens the only sequels arguably better than the originals?

    off the top of my head-

    godfather part ii
    empire strikes back
    dark knight
    spiderman 2 (tobey)
    for a few dollars more

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    Default Re: Are T2 and Aliens the only sequels arguably better than the originals?

    Winter Soldier > original Captain America

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    Default Re: Are T2 and Aliens the only sequels arguably better than the originals?

    Quote Originally Posted by SomeBlackDude
    off the top of my head-

    godfather part ii
    empire strikes back
    dark knight
    spiderman 2 (tobey)
    for a few dollars more
    For a few dollars more is NOT better than The Good, the bad and the ugly

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    Default Re: Are T2 and Aliens the only sequels arguably better than the originals?

    Quote Originally Posted by bladefd
    For a few dollars more is NOT better than The Good, the bad and the ugly
    good bad & ugly is the third in the trilogy.

    for a few dollars more, the sequel, is better than a fistful of dollars, the original.

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