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    Obama said that some Democrats are listening too closely to liberal Twitter and progressive activists, specifically singling out issues like health care and immigration and, in what amounted to a stern warning to the 2020 field, bluntly said that voters are "less revolutionary than ... interested in improvement" and warned about turning off certain segments of the electorate by not being "rooted in reality."

    "My one cautionary note is I think it is very important for all the candidates who are running at every level to pay some attention to where voters actually are," Obama said, specifically saying he doesn't think candidates should be "diluted into thinking that the resistance to certain approaches to things is simply because voters haven't heard a bold enough proposal."
    Obama again advising people to not listen to these social media wokes

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    Funny how the far left vociferously said NO to Clinton and Biden, but nary had a public criticism for Barry. Even now they don't seem to want to question or condemn anything related to his legacy.

    It's a perfect encapsulation of their MO: Obnoxious to the point of absurdity... yet simultaneously steeped in a paralyzing, obedient political correctness.

    Theyre not only laughing stocks, but legit lunatics.

    Frightening situation tbh. We've already seen them turning violent, filing false police accusations etc. It's only gonna get worse as they see normal people continue to distance themselves from 'the revolution.' They'll get even more desperate and unhinged.

    rrr3, Loco50, itsmillertime, proctard, andgar, bladefd, etc...

    These dudes belong in straight jackets. They're simply not fit for civilized living.

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    Obama has a point.

    For instance the stupid idea that there should ONLY be a publicly funded healthcare system (medicare for all) and NO private option. Sanders and Warren are firm on this and they are both wrong. You need to preserve the option of going with a private insurance, paying for it yourself. Wealthy people and upper middle class want this option. They will get better service. Doctors and hospitals want this option too. They will have certain clients which are more profitable.

    This is the way it works in Germany, where I live, and everyone is fine with it. The public system works great. The private system is a luxury for those who are doing quite well.

    But freaking Sanders and Warren want to eliminate private insurance all together. It is simply wrong-headed and too socialist.

    There are other examples as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FultzNationRISE
    Funny how the far left vociferously said NO to Clinton and Biden, but nary had a public criticism for Barry. Even now they don't seem to want to question or condemn anything related to his legacy.

    It's a perfect encapsulation of their MO: Obnoxious to the point of absurdity... yet simultaneously steeped in a paralyzing, obedient political correctness.

    Theyre not only laughing stocks, but legit lunatics.

    Frightening situation tbh. We've already seen them turning violent, filing false police accusations etc. It's only gonna get worse as they see normal people continue to distance themselves from 'the revolution.' They'll get even more desperate and unhinged.

    rrr3, Loco50, itsmillertime, proctard, andgar, bladefd, etc...

    These dudes belong in straight jackets. They're simply not fit for civilized living.
    yikes man. i honestly don't think you're a bad fella, but this constant melting down is not healthy. i truly hope you find inner peace and stable mental health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolando

    This is the way it works in Germany, where I live, and everyone is fine with it. The public system works great. The private system is a luxury for those who are doing quite well.

    But freaking Sanders and Warren want to eliminate private insurance all together. It is simply wrong-headed and too socialist.

    There are other examples as well.


    oh yeah...

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Sen. Bernie Sanders said Thursday they plan to introduce legislation to give the country’s public housing units an energy-efficiency overhaul, their first attempt at turning the Green New Deal’s broad framework into specific policy.

    The bill, dubbed the Green New Deal for Public Housing Act, would use seven grant programs to upgrade housing units into carbon-neutral communities with organic grocery stores, on-site child care and community gardens. Residents of public housing would be given preference in hiring to renovate those units.

    “I think it’s very exemplary of what we try to do with the Green New Deal, where we have a front-line community that has historically gotten the short end of the stick with environmental justice,” Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) said in an interview. ()

    The bill would cost between $119 billion and $172 billion over the next decade, according to estimates developed by Data for Progress, a progressive think tank. It would create up to 240,723 jobs a year, the group estimated.

    House Republicans, citing conservative think tanks, pegged the cost at $1.6 trillion or more.


    ([COLOR="Red"]Let's split the difference and err on the side of more expensive than planned, as projects tend to be. Something like 800 billion over 10 years for energy efficient public housing. [/COLOR])



    Some Democrats joined in the criticism. Rep. Max Rose (N.Y.) said that combating climate change did not require a “massive socialist economic policy platform.” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (Calif.) told climate activists who had gathered in her office that there was “no way to pay” for the Green New Deal.

    The left are cartoons.

    Just straight up a real life episode of Loony Tunes that our whole country is watching.
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    ok....New Green Deal. Good ideas but with plenty of stupidity thrown in there too.

    From wikipedia: ....The approach pushes for transitioning the United States to use 100% renewable, zero-emission energy sources, including investment into electric cars and high-speed rail systems, and implementing the "social cost of carbon" that has been part of Obama administration's plans for addressing climate change within 10 years.

    10 YEARS! What a bunch of morons. These same people who criticize the Republicans for ignoring scientists and experts actually put forth the idea that you can convert the entire US to "100% renewable, zero emmissions" in 10 years. They obviously are dreaming. No experts were consulted in this. No scientist....This is at the same level as Trumps Wall: Sheer stupidity.

    Converting the US to 100% renewable in 20 years would be a monumental achievement, almost beyond reality.....But 10 years is an absolute fantasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolando
    ok....New Green Deal. Good ideas but with plenty of stupidity thrown in there too.

    From wikipedia: ....The approach pushes for transitioning the United States to use 100% renewable, zero-emission energy sources, including investment into electric cars and high-speed rail systems, and implementing the "social cost of carbon" that has been part of Obama administration's plans for addressing climate change within 10 years.

    10 YEARS! What a bunch of morons. These same people who criticize the Republicans for ignoring scientists and experts actually put forth the idea that you can convert the entire US to "100% renewable, zero emmissions" in 10 years. They obviously are dreaming. No experts were consulted in this. No scientist....This is at the same level as Trumps Wall: Sheer stupidity.

    Converting the US to 100% renewable in 20 years would be a monumental achievement, almost beyond reality.....But 10 years is an absolute fantasy.

    The bigger question is why is this a job for the federal government? Why cannot each state implement policy on its own? That is how our union was designed to function. That will also produce less division and disharmony from state to state. Maybe instead of fighting with people in other states, we'll all spend more time on what's happening in our own states?

    The biggest states are most blue anyway, so if they take up the initiative they can lead by example, and provide the greatest impact. If it proves to be the success they're predicting, other states will happily follow suit.

    They won't do it that way largely because if it bankrupts their own states while providing negligible environmental return... they'll be butt hurt and embarrassed they ended up looking stupid while the 'the other side' has the last laugh. By federalizing it, everyone is essentially tied together at the wrists and if one person fails, everyone fails. That's basically the core tenet of socialism.

    That's like, literally what all this politics shit comes down to. Pride, ego, and butt hurtedness. Happens on both sides, but currently the left taking it to degrees rarely seen in the modern world.

    Now that's #Progressive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolando
    Obama has a point.

    For instance the stupid idea that there should ONLY be a publicly funded healthcare system (medicare for all) and NO private option. Sanders and Warren are firm on this and they are both wrong. You need to preserve the option of going with a private insurance, paying for it yourself. Wealthy people and upper middle class want this option. They will get better service. Doctors and hospitals want this option too. They will have certain clients which are more profitable.

    This is the way it works in Germany, where I live, and everyone is fine with it. The public system works great. The private system is a luxury for those who are doing quite well.

    But freaking Sanders and Warren want to eliminate private insurance all together. It is simply wrong-headed and too socialist.

    There are other examples as well.
    These people hate capitalism and you

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    Default Re: Barack Obama shits on the far left, again...

    [QUOTE=CelticBaller]These people hate capitalism and you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolando
    FFS make changes but don't take away options! These people are idiots. [COLOR="Red"]Capitalism has its place. Just needs tweeking, rules, and oversight.[/COLOR] Alot like basketball: Competition within a proper framework that makes the game better.


    woah woah pal... that sounds like more regulations n socialism.

    are you, by any chance, a communist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    woah woah pal... that sounds like more regulations n socialism.

    are you, by any chance, a communist?
    Bwahahahahahahaha You got me!

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    Default Re: Barack Obama shits on the far left, again...

    Quote Originally Posted by CelticBaller
    Obama again advising people to not listen to these social media wokes
    He's not wrong. When you spend your whole campaign talking about plans that have no chance of being implemented any time soon and saying that billionaires shouldn't exist, expect push back from moderates and weak support overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    woah woah pal... that sounds like more regulations n socialism.

    are you, by any chance, a communist?


    There's a lot of skepticism that regulations and socialization will simply be exploited and abused en masse by lazy and indifferent Americans.

    The fact that your typical socialist does virtually NOTHING in terms of giving to charity, volunteering, making 'green' sacrifices of their own etc. kinda reinforces these assumptions.

    All this stuff you're begging the government to regulate, is stuff you could implement in your own community. If people like you were hard at work doing that, it might seem a little more convincing.

    But it doesn't appear you are. So what do you really care about?

    If you're competent and capable, America is literally the best place you could possibly be. So if this socialism thing is about YOUR position, you shouldn't need it if you're competent and capable.

    "Wait a minute. But I am competent and capable! I just care about everyone else who is struggling...!"

    So let's see those charity receipts and volunteer hours. We've seen Bernie's and Elizabeth's and Beta's... and it isn't pretty. They dont give back shit. They only pretend to care because it puts themselves on a pedestal, and guys like you are falling for it.


    Begging for socialism is either an issue with YOU lacking the ability to compete (and if you admit that then we may at least be able to have an honest conversation) or a phony, insincere, transparent projection that you care about 'the little guy out there' when nothing about the way you spend YOUR time or money suggests that to be true.

    You're a hypocrite big boy. One way or another, you're not admitting the truth. Which is why we can't even begin to get anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CelticBaller
    Obama again advising people to not listen to these social media wokes
    The only issue is Obama is perfectly happy with these social media wokes attacking center right, moderate republicans.

    And his perfect world idealism cultivated this kind of "woke" movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawker
    The only issue is Obama is perfectly happy with these social media wokes attacking center right, moderate republicans.

    And his perfect world idealism cultivated this kind of "woke" movement.

    It's a delicate balance, isn't it?

    Establishment puppets like Obama have to use 'fair share' and race mongering to keep the base away from sensible right-leaning ideas... but if it goes too far left, the Dem Establishment loses the power its own leaders are wielding behind the curtain.

    Gotta have just enough to keep the sheep scared of the republican boogieman, but not so much that they're running away from even the Democrats in power.


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