What's the argument for LeBron NOT being the GOAT

[AlternativeAcc.]

If LeBron has GOAT impact/ability to carry team, GOAT ring/peak, and GOAT longevity then what's the argument

[Mr. Jabbar]

[Bronbron23]

If LeBron has GOAT impact/ability to carry team, GOAT ring/peak, and GOAT longevity then what's the argument

Well hes not the goat in any of those categories. The closest would be longevity but im not sure if he even has that. Mj at the same age won a scoring title,won mvp,first team defence, fmvp and a chip. Athletically speaking lebron has the goat longevity though ill give u that.

That said the argument is that mj was pretty much better or very close to lebron in every intangible amd category you can think of but he was way better in a couple categories that lebron was relatively weak in. Post play, mid range and off ball movement were three things that lebron isnt very good at it. In the last few years his mid range has been much better but overall its way behind mj.

These three advantages allowed mj to play within an offence much better. He could still dominate the game and get great stats without monopolizing the ball which allowed for much better ball movement and consequently wins.

The closest lebron came to doing this was in miami where he didn't have his greatest stats but its when he had his most wins.

[SpaceJam2]

He was a better defender than MJ, played on less talented teams against tougher competition and broke every single one of this playoff records in the same amount of playoff appearances (13 each). MJ has no case over LeBron except rings, but then again...Russell has 11 so there's that

[AlternativeAcc.]

Well hes not the goat in any of those categories. The closest would be longevity but im not sure if he even has that. Mj at the same age won a scoring title,won mvp,first team defence, fmvp and a chip. Athletically speaking lebron has the goat longevity though ill give u that.

That said the argument is that mj was pretty much better or very close to lebron in every intangible amd category you can think of but he was way better in a couple categories that lebron was relatively weak in. Post play, mid range and off ball movement were three things that lebron isnt very good at it. In the last few years his mid range has been much better but overall its way behind mj.

These three advantages allowed mj to play within an offence much better. He could still dominate the game and get great stats without monopolizing the ball which allowed for much better ball movement and consequently wins.

The closest lebron came to doing this was in miami where he didn't have his greatest stats but its when he had his most wins.

So the argument is to lie and pretend LeBron isn't the GOAT in certain categories despite indisputable evidence that he is..

interesting


Also, why are you comparing MJ's 13th season to LeBron's 17th? are you that desperate

[AlternativeAcc.]

He was a better defender than MJ, played on less talented teams against tougher competition and broke every single one of this playoff records in the same amount of playoff appearances (13 each).MJ has no case over LeBron except rings, but then again...Russell has 11 so there's that

Precisely

That means MJ has NO argument for GOAT, even if you do use the faulty ring argument (which isnt a real argument to begin with)

[Bronbron23]

So the argument is to lie and pretend LeBron isn't the GOAT in certain categories despite indisputable evidence that he is..

interesting


Also, why are you comparing MJ's 13th season to LeBron's 17th? are you that desperate

Im not lying.The carrying the team category is subjective depending on what your looking for. The peak category is close but mjs peak was better and i already gave u the argument for longevity.

And Why are u comparing the sesson compared to age? Age is the way more accurate comparison

[ImKobe]

Gets outplayed by 20 y.o white Euros.

[warriorfan]

Jason Terry

[AirFederer]

Luca

[knicksman]

Who would you rather be? A guy like lebron who averages triple doubles or a guy like kobe who is the one being relied to when the going gets tough, who is being relied to for last shots. Coz for me, triple doubles means nothing if my team doesnt trust me in crunch time. Its like winning 73 games but not winning the ring.

[Leviathon1121]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/pag.../all-nbarank-1

[Doomsday Dallas]

[Bawkish]

getting DP'ed by J. Terry & JJ Barea

[SpaceJam2]

This is all I know:







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