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    absolutely no argument whatsoever. zero. the last argument was 2011 jason terry and he's been put into a coffin since.



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    Default Re: What's the argument for LeBron NOT being the GOAT

    3/9 AFTER stacking the deck in Miami.

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    3/9 will be viewed as a good record in hindsight. especially if he wins even a single additional ring.

    2007 inexperience

    2011 choke
    2012 ring
    2013 ring
    2014 injuries
    2015 injuries
    2016 ring
    2017 most stacked team of all time
    2018 most stacked team of all time

    2020??
    2021??



    only one of the six losses there was a choke. even that could almost be chalked up to the first year playing with the new team - we'll just classify it as a choke, which is accurate.

    the other five losses you cant fault him. 2007 just too young, 2014 wade was hobbled, 2015 no kyrie or love, 2017 and 2018 literally the most stacked teams of all time.

    despite all of that he still came out of it with three finals MVPs - thats a great result. lead both teams to a championship - also a great result. 2014 and 2015 he was the best player in both finals, could've easily been a finals MVP year especially 2015 where he only needed kyrie. alas well deserved, warriors got their first ring injuries are part of the game. same argument could be made for 2017 and especially 2018, no shame in either loss. history will note how stacked those teams were.


    I wouldnt argue GOAT but he's definitely the 2nd GOAT - already, mind you - only after mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Overdrive View Post
    So you're saying it wasn't an underdog win, which basically is the criteria for you guys to crown Lebron GOAT?
    BOOM

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    Quote Originally Posted by HylianNightmare View Post
    3/9 AFTER stacking the deck in Miami.
    you wanna crown em , crown em

    but he is who we thought he was

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorP View Post
    you wanna crown em , crown em

    but he is who we thought he was
    yup.





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    Minimum requirement for GOAT status is 6 titles, really should be 7 titles now. As the no.1 option. On top of 5 MVPs I think. Minimum.

    If you want to be GOAT, you should be better than Jordan or Kareem, that is not an unfair ask. For people saying "well that's too hard" ... tough sh*t. It's supposed to be hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red1 View Post
    yup.





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    you are obviously crowning him. go ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorP View Post
    you are obviously crowning him. go ahead.
    Yup. He's already the 2nd greatest player of all time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soundwave View Post
    Minimum requirement for GOAT status is 6 titles, really should be 7 titles now. As the no.1 option. On top of 5 MVPs I think. Minimum.

    If you want to be GOAT, you should be better than Jordan or Kareem, that is not an unfair ask. For people saying "well that's too hard" ... tough sh*t. It's supposed to be hard.
    then by your logic russell is undisputed GOAT. context has to play a role - meaning how good they actually were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23 View Post
    And zero finals mvp. Lakers are going to win the championship this year.
    You have to admit lebron can't even carry the lakers to the playoffs without ad or dwight howard in the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam2 View Post
    Don't be so harsh on MJ, he is still likely top 3 all time

    Food for thought: Kobe is a NEGATIVE in playoff DBPM (-0.3) and has a worse DRtg than Jordan and LeBron

    Defensive Playoff Statistics (Kobe/MJ fans may want to look away)

    DefRtg
    LBJ: 102
    MJ: 104
    Kobe: 106

    DBPM
    LBJ: 3.2
    MJ: 2.1
    Kobe: -0.3

    DWS
    LBJ: 15.9
    MJ: 12.4
    Kobe: 7.3

    LBJ is ranked 1st in all
    Kobe is ranked last in all

    LBJ > MJ > Kobe
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    Quote Originally Posted by 86Celtics View Post
    At least try to sound semi-intelligent.
    Who is a worse defender than MJ in the top 10?
    LBJ
    Duncan
    Kareem
    Shaq
    Wilt
    Russell
    Hakeem
    All obviously above him

    Down to Magic, MJ, Bird

    I guess he is 8th best, I take it back

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    Quote Originally Posted by FromDowntown View Post
    Anyone?
    Troll.

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    Only way is if he ate a Bat like they did in China at the Wet Market and started the Coronavirus, but somehow he cured it.

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    Wake me up when someone passes 6,911

    Until then


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