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  • 89' Jordan.. 6 seed.. 9 team defense.. Pip' 15 on 39.7%....BEAT..... #1 SRS. Cavs' and 3 all-stars*

    8 25.00%
  • 09' Lebron.. 1 seed.. 3 team defense.. Mo' 18 on 37.8%... LOST TO #4 SRS Magic and 2 all-stars

    24 75.00%
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    Default Who did more with less?

    * plus 20/5/5 ron harper
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    Default Re: Who did more with less?

    1-9

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    Default Re: Who did more with less?

    Lebron because he's infallible.

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    Default Re: Who did more with less?

    Quote Originally Posted by FKAri
    Lebron because he's infallible
    Lebron lost in 2009 because he can't command double-teams due to weak jumper that rarely gets hot to require getting the ball out of his hands; and his lack of off-ball game allows opponents to defend his long-dribble style, which is preferred over double-teaming and spurring ball-movement (Stan Van Gundy and Kerr let him dribble away - they wanted the ball in his hands).. so his weak jumper and long-dribble style prevents double-teaming and allows teammates to be guarded straight-up and locked down, like the 2009 ECF where he lost as the favorite, or the 2015 Finals where a better team effort would've beaten Curry/Klay (who are otherwise losers in the Finals, 8-10 without KD).

    And when you think about it, the 1-ball-dominator style and 4 shooter approach is the easiest form of the game - an opposing coach would WANT a Lebron-team to keep playing that way, rather than switch it up.. That's largely why Lebron gets destroyed for 3 straight games to lose every Finals - teams figure out the basic style, and blow it's doors off, along with the franchise
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    Default Re: Who did more with less?

    Although every1 likes to dog on Ehlo, it was Harp who was kind of tasked with MJ as his starting defensive assignment. Ron had a 7 foot armspan, pretty effective for traps and clogging those passing lanes.

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    Default Re: Who did more with less?

    Pippen did the most carrying

    He literally carried a 1-9 career loser to 6 Finals

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    Default Re: Who did more with less?

    Poll speaks for itself

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    Default Re: Who did more with less?

    Quote Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn
    Poll speaks for itself
    The People have spoken

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    Default Re: Who did more with less?

    LeBron considering his dick is over twice as small as Jordans

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    Default Re: Who did more with less?

    pretty much a dumb poll

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    Default Re: Who did more with less?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasper
    pretty much a dumb poll
    Lebron's "carrying" ability has always been overrated - he needed the highest time of possession/weakest ball movement ever to get good stats in 2015-2018 Finals - his teams are routinely massively out-assisted in the championship

    he infact can't carry lottery casts to playoffs - he missed playoffs 3 times with teams that were lottery the prior year (04', 05', 19') - aka couldn't drag lottery casts to low seeds/underdog matchups in 1st Round, and only made playoffs with high seeds, good teams, and easy 1st round matchups, thus inflating early playoff resume compared to other stars who were good enough to carry lottery casts to low seeds

    His inability to succeed with weak teams or develop bad teams into championships shouldn't be a surprise, since his ball-dominant style turns teammates into spot-up shooters, which doesn't develop players/teams and requires ready-made stars acquired via collusion/cheating.. he simply avoided the career-losing fate of other ball-dominators by colluding for the extra talent this style needs to win

    Ultimately, Lebron's style is suboptimal - he starts at SF but then shares PG duties with the PG - this creates a 2 point guard lineup that gives teammates less hold-time and assists than they get in 1-PG lineups, thus causing low TEAM assists and a brand that struggles on the championship level, aka 3/9... this suboptimal style results from a SKILL DEFICIT where he can't get elite stats off-ball.

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    Default Re: Who did more with less?

    Poll is 1-9 now, not a coincidence.

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    Default Re: Who did more with less?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keno
    Poll is 1-9 now, not a coincidence.

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    Lebron lost with HCA to Dwight Howard a career loser. Let that sink in for a second.

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    Default Re: Who did more with less?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keno
    Poll is 1-9 now, not a coincidence.

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