Put DeMar DeRozan with the 1993-94 Chicago Bulls?

[Lebron23]

Do they win the championship? Derozan's best statistical season in his career. Bulls won 55 games with Pete Myers replacing Jordan.

[Uncle Drew]

They'd go 72-10.

[Real14]

It would be the bulls and the rockets in the finals.

[Uncle Drew]

It would be the bulls and the rockets in the finals.

Whatever the outcome would be of that series, DeRozan should be praised for not being afraid of Hakeem and ducking him (unlike someone else).

[Real14]

Whatever the outcome would be of that series, DeRozan should be praised for not being afraid of Hakeem and ducking him (unlike someone else).

Yea DeRozan would of never done that.

[3ball]

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Derozan is far below Drexler, let alone Jordan:


Regular Season

DREXLER:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 20.4.. 6.1.. 5.6.. 54.7 ts.. 114 ortg.. 21.1 PER.. 0.175 ws/48... 6.0 bpm.. 75.6 vorp
DEROZAN:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 19.9.. 4.3.. 3.4.. 53.6 ts.. 109 ortg.. 17.9 PER.. 0.113 ws/48.. -0.5 bpm.. 10.0 vorp


Playoffs

DREXLER:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 20.4.. 6.9.. 6.1.. 53.2 ts.. 113 ortg.. 19.7 PER.. 0.134 ws/48... 5.9 bpm.. 11.0 vorp
DEROZAN:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 21.9.. 4.6.. 3.6.. 50.3 ts.. 103 ortg.. 16.7 PER.. 0.052 ws/48.. -1.8 bpm.. 0.1 vorp



and drexler > 07' and 11' Lebron:


Drexler 1992 PO:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 26.3.. 7.4.. 7.0.. 55.8 ts.. 120 ortg.. 6.2 obpm.. 2.1 vorp.. 22.8 PER
Lebron' 2011 PO:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 23.7.. 8.4.. 5.9.. 56.3 ts.. 113 ortg.. 5.4 obpm.. 2.3 vorp.. 23.7 PER
Lebron' 2007 PO:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 25.1.. 8.1.. 8.0.. 51.6 ts.. 109 ortg.. 5.4 obpm.. 2.4 vorp.. 23.9 PER

Drexler 1992 Finals:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 24.8.. 7.8.. 5.3.. 52.2 ts.. 3.0 tov.. 113 ortg.. 18.4 gmsc
Lebron' 2011 Finals:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 17.8.. 7.2.. 6.8.. 54.1 ts.. 4.0 tov.. 102 ortg.. 13.7 gmsc
Lebron' 2007 Finals:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 22.0.. 7.0.. 6.8.. 42.8 ts.. 5.8 tov.... 83 ortg.. 10.6 gmsc
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[3ball]

it takes a player of Kobe or MJ's skill level to get stats within the triangle without hurting the offense

many players of derozan's level used the triangle and failed to win

MJ and Kobe are the only guys to win on the professional level with it.. that isn't coincidence.. (and peak Shaq won with it obv)

So DeRozan is nowhere near the caliber needed to win with it - he was infact far less Drexler, who was actually superior to 07' or 11' Lebron (see all the stats in previous post above) - that's the level drexler was at, and I do think drexler could've won with the 94' Bulls
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[superduper]

Wonder why it's okay for Bran stans to say daily that Demar = MJ

[LeCroix]

Strong shooter guard ability.

[Vino24]

I think DeRozan would fair pretty well with Jeff Hornacek being his toughest comp.

[3ball]

1992 ECSF

Jordan... 31.3 ppg
Cast....... 61.1 ppg


1994 ECSF

Pippen... 21.7 ppg
Cast....... 68.3 ppg


more jordan shots = less teammate shots.. so Jordan's 10 point advantage on Pippen cost his cast 7 points - which means his presence adds 3 points to the scoring overall (10 - 7) compared to Pippen

Assuming DeRozan's higher scoring detracts from his cast the same as Jordan's, then DeRozan isn't an adequate scorer to win.. Jordan only added 3 points overall once you account for lesser scoring from the cast, and DeRozan's scoring deficit to MJ is more than 3

That's just 1 way to look at it... It's interesting because Pippen's sidekick performance in 1992 ECSF (16 ppg on 42%) underperformed BJ and Grant's in 94' (17 ppg each on 50% +)

[FromDowntown]

1992 ECSF

Jordan... 31.3 ppg
Cast....... 61.1 ppg


1994 ECSF

Pippen... 21.7 ppg
Cast....... 68.3 ppg


more jordan shots = less teammate shots.. so Jordan's 10 point advantage on Pippen cost his cast 7 points - which means his presence adds 3 points to the scoring overall (10 - 7) compared to Pippen

Assuming DeRozan's higher scoring detracts from his cast the same as Jordan's, then DeRozan isn't an adequate scorer to win.. Jordan only added 3 points overall once you account for lesser scoring from the cast, and DeRozan's scoring deficit to MJ is more than 3

That's just 1 way to look at it... It's interesting because Pippen's sidekick performance in 1992 ECSF (16 ppg on 42%) underperformed BJ and Grant's in 94' (17 ppg each on 50% +)

Didn't think you were dumb enough to do this.

Imagine Pippen havd Jordan in 94 to do all the dirty work for him while he was the number one option. How do you think that would look like?

[3ball]

Didn't think you were dumb enough to do this.

Imagine Pippen havd Jordan in 94 to do all the dirty work for him while he was the number one option. How do you think that would look like?

Actually, MJ was doing all the dirty work as the goat guard defender and getting more dpoy votes basically every year... MJ was 2nd in dpoy voting in 93', while Pippen didn't place at all

And mj matched Pippen in assists, while carrying the goat scoring load... Pippen infact did very little...

MJ even guarded Magic for him most of the series (Magic is always guarded by forwards, but MJ did Pippen a favor to take pressure off in his first Finals - he knew pip couldn't handle the pressure)

[FromDowntown]

Actually, MJ was doing all the dirty work as the goat guard defender and getting more dpoy votes basically every year... MJ was 2nd in dpoy voting in 93', while Pippen didn't place at all

And mj matched Pippen in assists, while carrying the goat scoring load... Pippen infact did very little...

MJ even guarded Magic for him most of the series (Magic is always guarded by forwards, but MJ did Pippen a favor to take pressure off in his first Finals - he knew pip couldn't handle the pressure)

You were dumb enough to compare output of MJ with Pip and then Pip without MJ as if that's fair. Put MJ as #2 option behind Pippen in 94. What happens? Fail #1

Every NBA fan knows aboit MJ's 1-9 black mark. He was nothing without that Tree Trunk. Fail # 2

MJ didnt match Pippen in shit but scoring. Pip had more rebs, asts, stls, blk. Fail #3

Pip always had the superior DegRtg every single year eith MJ. MJ was just mediocre level defending, like a JR Smith type. Fail #4

Pip in 94 with MJ as #2option wins easily. MJ is nothing soecial. A solid #2 option. Fail #5

[warriorfan]

Derozen is the worst defender in the league

Michael is the best