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    Thumbs up KG talks about losing the attrition battle to MJ

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hSGS62d-ETk&t=03m22s

    Garnett talks about feeling like you're on defense all the time against an opponents' onslaught

    And what could make KG so tired - would it be MJ dribbling the ball for half the shot clock while the defense rests? Or would it be MJ coming down for quick-hitter scores that forces the defense to be ready and on their toes?

    Obviously, it's the latter...

    But most importantly, a tired and worn down defense can't go off offensively - when Garnett was re-enacting being exhausted, did he look like he could get hot offensively? Obviously not - and therein lies the problem with Luka and Lebron's game, or any ball-dominator - their long dribbling doesn't shift defenses or wear down teams as much as the ball movement they face on the championship level, so opponents are always fresher with all the intangibles needed to go off (see the 2014 Finals).. Luka and Lebron-ball simply doesn't win the attrition battle on the championship level, aka 3/10

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    Default Re: KG talks about losing the attrition battle to MJ

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    tl;dr LeBron
    For anyone who wants to save some time

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    Default Re: KG talks about losing the attrition battle to MJ

    Quote Originally Posted by MrFonzworth View Post

    for anyone who wants to save some time

    tl;dr Lebron
    And Luka..

    Ultimately, you wish lebron's offense could tire out defenses the way MJ tired out KG

    And of course, tiring out a defense blunts their offensive attack, aka winning the attrition war (something lebron's long dribbles can't do - the 14' Spurs wore out the Heat, and the Heat couldn't respond in kind with offense that could wear out/blunt the Spurs' attack.. aka lost the battle of attrition)

    Enjoy that knowledge sandwich so you can know what's ACTUALLY going on, rather than rely on canned, one-line explanations that are inaccurate
    Last edited by 3ball; 02-24-2020 at 02:36 AM.

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    Default Re: KG talks about losing the attrition battle to MJ

    Quote Originally Posted by MrFonzworth View Post
    For anyone who wants to save some time
    solid breakdown


    just avoided an essay worth of cringe

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    Default Re: KG talks about losing the attrition battle to MJ

    3ball's tossing and turning tonight it looks like.
    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    And Luka..

    Ultimately, you wish lebron's offense could tire out defenses the way MJ tired out KG

    And of course, tiring out a defense blunts their offensive attack, aka winning the attrition war (something lebron's long dribbles can't do - the 14' Spurs wore out the Heat, and the Heat couldn't respond in kind with offense that could wear out/blunt the Spurs' attack.. aka lost the battle of attrition)

    Enjoy that knowledge sandwich so you can know what's ACTUALLY going on, rather than rely on canned, one-line explanations that are inaccurate
    While MJ's busy trying to tire a defense like some spin class instructor forcing people to move on the perimeter, LeBron's tiring them out with relentless penetration right down the middle that the defense is just begging for an end to. He will find even the smallest hole the defense offers and tear it open. It's more of a mental drain as the shock and awe leaves them dejected.

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    Default Re: KG talks about losing the attrition battle to MJ

    Quote Originally Posted by FKAri View Post
    3ball's tossing and turning tonight it looks like.

    While MJ's busy trying to tire a defense like some spin class instructor forcing people to move on the perimeter, LeBron's tiring them out with relentless penetration right down the middle that the defense is just begging for an end to. He will find even the smallest hole the defense offers and tear it open. It's more of a mental drain as the shock and awe leaves them dejected.
    KG refusing to even contest

    Dirty forearm shiver mid air



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    Default Re: KG talks about losing the attrition battle to MJ

    Who had more success as a ball dominator OP? Jordan or LeBron (you can even do just their 1st 5 years + Jordan 2 years with the wizards...so 7 years)

    We can just do the 1st 5 years since i know you dont want to do the wizard years.



    Who had more success? Jordan from 84/85 - 88/89 or LeBron from 03/04 - 07/08


    Just answer the question.Who had more team success...what was the playoff record during said times


    edit:
    I think this one is gonna be avoided like the plague fellas....plague man plague man yeah thats me
    Last edited by Im so nba'd out; 02-24-2020 at 03:56 AM.

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    Default Re: KG talks about losing the attrition battle to MJ

    Keep in mind KG was a virgin when he went against Jordan. He was a full fledged man who went to the mountains and back when he faced LeBron.

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    Default Re: KG talks about losing the attrition battle to MJ

    Quote Originally Posted by “OP”
    KG talks about staying relevant in the media and the minds of unknowing sheeple, by name dropping THE GOAT and overstating his own importance during historically relevant eras.
    fixed.

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    Default Re: KG talks about losing the attrition battle to MJ

    Quote Originally Posted by FKAri View Post
    3ball's tossing and turning tonight it looks like.

    While MJ's busy trying to tire a defense like some spin class instructor forcing people to move on the perimeter, LeBron's tiring them out with relentless penetration right down the middle that the defense is just begging for an end to. He will find even the smallest hole the defense offers and tear it open. It's more of a mental drain as the shock and awe leaves them dejected.
    Being Mr. Smart-Aleck won't change the truth - ball-dominance doesn't shift defenses or wear them out like zippy ball movement - it's harder to chase MJ off-ball than waiting for Lebron to make his move.

    Ultimately, one player dribbling for half the shot clock and then driving doesn't tire out defenses more than championship ball movement that routinely out-assists and crushes Lebron's teams in the Finals

    Watch Garnett re-enact being exhausted in that clip - does that look like the kind of player that could "get hot" offensively??.. Obviously not - Lebron's team couldn't tire out the 14' Spurs like that, so they were blown away (they themselves got tired out with no response in kind to have a chance at winning the attrition battle)

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