"It's just a sore throat bro"

[n00bie]

Japan hasnt even shut their economy down and is doing great.

USA's biggest problem is we're too global. Japan doesnt allow imported visitors.

We need to become less globalized and more self sufficient like T says.

If you ever been to an asian country in the last couple of years, you'll notice that everyone wears a facemask. Even when they're not sick. People in the West laugh and judge when they see someone walking around with a face mask.

[Stephonit]

If you ever been to an asian country in the last couple of years, you'll notice that everyone wears a facemask. Even when they're not sick. People in the West laugh and judge when they see someone walking around with a face mask.

This is the only explanation that makes sense to me. The American experts saying you don't need to wear a facemask if you aren't sick sound as if they are only saying it so that more masks become available for health workers.

[BurningHammer]

If you ever been to an asian country in the last couple of years, you'll notice that everyone wears a facemask. Even when they're not sick. People in the West laugh and judge when they see someone walking around with a face mask.

Human being is getting weaker while viruses are keeping mutating and becoming new threats in various ways. Those countries are doing good jobs adapting their ways of life, especially Japan that has the oldest population of Earth.

I guess we here in the West should start adapting too.

[TheMan]

They also took it serious early on and took precautions, ramped up testing right away + isolating those infected. We meanwhile took 10 weeks f*cking around/twiddling our thumbs before finally taking it serious. That time we wasted caught up to us faster than we knew what hit us..

Exactly, and this goes straight to the top whether or not Trump takes responsibility for it, it falls on him. The lazy, cavalier attitude he displayed is now kicking us in the ass. We had time to do something and ultimately did nothing.

This is the consequences of voting for someone not fit for the highest office in the land.

[TheMan]

Human being is getting weaker while viruses are keeping mutating and becoming new threats in various ways. Those countries are doing good jobs adapting their ways of life, especially Japan that has the oldest population of Earth.

I guess we here in the West should start adapting too.

If we don't learn some lessons from this pandemic, we never will.

States need to have a surplus of PPE, there are doctors wearing garbage bags right now in NY ffs because they are low on PPE, in the biggest city of the world's richest nation that should not be happening. There should be stockades of surgical masks to hand out to every citizen and make them mandatory to use also. That helps the infected from being so contagious and also helps from not being infected so easily.

[BurningHammer]

If we don't learn some lessons from this pandemic, we never will.

We have to make sure those who will never learn not getting into power in the future, at least.

[bobopenguin]

They also took it serious early on and took precautions, ramped up testing right away + isolating those infected. We meanwhile took 10 weeks f*cking around/twiddling our thumbs before finally taking it serious. That time we wasted caught up to us faster than we knew what hit us..

lol not sure if u are serious.
Japan has completely failed to take any early precaution. Their numbers of infections are so low cos they didnt even do any testing. They dont wanna do any testing cos they are afraid it will delayed the Olympic.
Every country in Asia region knew Japan fked this one up.
only countries took this viruses very seriously so far are Korea/Taiwan/HK.

[MrFonzworth]

lol not sure if u are serious.
Japan has completely failed to take any early precaution. Their numbers of infections are so low cos they didnt even do any testing. They dont wanna do any testing cos they are afraid it will delayed the Olympic.
Every country in Asia region knew Japan fked this one up.
only countries took this viruses very seriously so far are Korea/Taiwan/HK.

Taiwan and Hong Kong are countries? Huge yikes, both reside in the sweaty part underneath China's balls.

[Facepalm]

This is the only explanation that makes sense to me. The American experts saying you don't need to wear a facemask if you aren't sick sound as if they are only saying it so that more masks become available for health workers.

They wear them to not infect others

[coin24]

Yikes, those stats look like Simons replies to himself count

[Nanners]

On the average day, ~7500 people die in america, about 2/3 of them senior citizens. The 5 most common causes of death for seniors are heart disease, cancer, stroke, chronic respiratory disease, and pneumonia. If you tested every one of the ~5500 seniors who die on the average day for the 30+ known strains of coronavirus (aka common cold), a large number would test positive for at least one strain of corona (some of them would be carrying more than one strain). A large number of these seniors would also test positive for at least one strain of flu. Despite the fact that large numbers of these ~5500 would test positive for strains of corona and influenza, under normal circumstances these viruses would not necessarily be considered to be the actual cause of these deaths. Typically when we define a persons cause of death, what we do is look at the entire sum of a persons life - if you smoked cigarettes for 50 years, got lung cancer, received chemo and a major surgery, and then ultimately died of a staph infection, your cause of death would be cancer brought on by a lifetime of smoking... we certainly would not place 100% of the blame on the staph infection that ultimately ended things. Now consider that 98% of supposed covid victims have at least one pre-existing illness and 50% of victims have 3 or more pre-existing illnesses, and yet all of these deaths are being attributed to the virus.

Currently with covid, we are testing almost all of the ~7500 americans who die every day to see if they have one specific strain of the common cold, and if they test positive we are attributing their death to the virus. Covid was first dected in the US on January 20th, and as of today we have about 730 americans who were "killed" by covid (except the majority of these people were not actually killed by covid, it was simply a contributing factor in their death). Consider that even if you want to use this laughably inflated and flawed method of counting covid deaths, the total number of dead americans who tested positive for covid is only 1/10th of an average daily death toll in this country... in the 66 days since covid was first detected in the US, ~500,000 americans (mostly seniors) have died for other reasons.

Ultimately covid is just a strain of the common cold that happens to be backed by a very slick marketing campaign.

[Kblaze8855]

All of this really just depends on how you wanna spin it. TB still kills well over a million people a year. Malaria about half a million. ****ing diarrhea kills about a million due to the resulting dehydration. It doesnt take much to kill a lot of people when you have a population of 7 billion and most are poor. And as Nanners implied its kinda hard to put numbers on it with so many of the dead already sick and old. When you have 3 things and catch a 4th that makes the others worse...what killed you? If I beat you with a crowbar, another guy stabs you in the chest, you are already 68, fat, and on 4 medications, and another guy comes and shoots you in the back as youre trying to get up from the beating and stabbing.....wouldnt all 3 be charged with murder?

We are charging the shooter and ignoring the fact that the guy probably dies soon anyway.

Its a shitty way to put it but im not sure of a non shitty way to say it.

Obviously...take it serious enough to limit the infection rate of those at risk. Im not saying go out and spread a disease that kills the weak and a few of the strong. Im saying....when 4 things combine to kill you maybe the people telling the truth about it arent evil. Just.....honest.

Honesty can in this case provide a sense of safety that may be problematic since some will refuse to do whats right but still.....

Does that make it wrong to tell the truth? A truth that doesnt help is still true. And its absolutely true that this isnt nearly as devastating as a number of conditions we dont panic over because we are used to them.

The main impact seems to be on the healthcare industry and workers who get overwhelmed taking care of people who will for the most part be fine. And thats an issue. Its serious and does justify reporting.

But like I said....there is truth in the "But what about....." argument.

[Stephonit]

Clearly people here STILL aren't taking it seriously. The appeals to current numbers are silly because EXPONENTIAL GROWTH. A couple of months ago Trump was brushing away the problem because there were only 15 cases. Now there are tens of thousands.

Saying people in their 70s die all the time is just as dumb. We are all fated to die. 100% of us. Does that mean we shouldn't take precautions and avoid high risk activities while alive?

In the past American wars even at their worst didn't kill as many as the flu does each year. Does that mean wars should be treated like the flu? Should the risk of a nuclear war be dismissed because wars in the past don't show the casualty levels a nuclear war would be estimated to cause?

The country is complacent. Americans are spoiled. The country hasn't experienced a true disaster of this potential scale on home soil in a couple of generations. Doctors in ERs are telling you this is different. Yet the denial is still palpable. This will be a bad wake up call.

Then again maybe it won't change anything since people have been rationalizing indifference for years now. It's only a problem for immigrants. It's only a problem for blacks. It's only a problem for the poor. It's only a problem for students. Now it's only a problem for the elderly. It's a problem for anybody but you—until it becomes your problem. Just hope anybody is left who bothers to care when it does.

[diamenz]

Clearly people here STILL aren't taking it seriously. The appeals to current numbers are silly because EXPONENTIAL GROWTH. A couple of months ago Trump was brushing away the problem because there were only 15 cases. Now there are tens of thousands.

Saying people in their 70s die all the time is just as dumb. We are all fated to die. 100% of us. Does that mean we shouldn't take precautions and avoid high risk activities while alive?

In the past American wars even at their worst didn't kill as many as the flu does each year. Does that mean wars should be treated like the flu? Should the risk of a nuclear war be dismissed because wars in the past don't show the casualty levels a nuclear war would be estimated to cause?

The country is complacent. Americans are spoiled. The country hasn't experienced a true disaster of this potential scale on home soil in a couple of generations. Doctors in ERs are telling you this is different. Yet the denial is still palpable. This will be a bad wake up call.

Then again maybe it won't change anything since people have been rationalizing indifference for years now. It's only a problem for immigrants. It's only a problem for blacks. It's only a problem for the poor. It's only a problem for students. Now it's only a problem for the elderly. It's a problem for anybody but you—until it becomes your problem. Just hope anybody is left who bothers to care when it does.

no doubt.

god forbid you have to stay inside for a few weeks with family members and actually have an in depth conversation.

god forbid you have to throw away some of your vices for awhile.

god forbid you have to settle for bodyweight exercises as opposed to your barbell routines @ the gym.

god forbid you miss your yoga class and it throws off your 'zen'.

ffs, america... at least you have your iphones and your netflixxx. learn to make due.

[bobopenguin]

Taiwan and Hong Kong are countries? Huge yikes, both reside in the sweaty part underneath China's balls.

keep on going chinese spy, let everyone see ur true colour~
everyone in the world knows taiwan is a country except commies, and that's u.