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    Default Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?

    Chris Paul

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    Default Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn View Post
    Chris Paul
    Just for reference here are the percentages for their career:

    From 10'-16'
    Derozan: 42.8%
    Paul: 48.1%

    From 16' to the 3 point line

    Derozan: 38.5%
    Paul: 46.1%

    I don't have the data, not sure where you could even get it, but it wouldn't surprise me if Paul is statistically the best mid/long range shooter ever. Derozan just shoots a shit ton from those ranges which overrates his abilities. He isn't "bad" at it but he isn't elite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn View Post
    Just for reference here are the percentages for their career:

    From 10'-16'
    Derozan: 42.8%
    Paul: 48.1%

    From 16' to the 3 point line

    Derozan: 38.5%
    Paul: 46.1%

    I don't have the data, not sure where you could even get it, but it wouldn't surprise me if Paul is statistically the best mid/long range shooter ever. Derozan just shoots a shit ton from those ranges which overrates his abilities. He isn't "bad" at it but he isn't elite.
    Where do you get the data from and is it available pre 00?

    Can you check Kawhi's? I'd be pretty interested in his midrange numbers.

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    KD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overdrive View Post
    Where do you get the data from and is it available pre 00?

    Can you check Kawhi's? I'd be pretty interested in his midrange numbers.
    on basketball-reference.com and you have to look at each player and as far as I can tell you can't search for those shooting stats in their database.

    https://www.basketball-reference.com.../paulch01.html

    Kawhi:

    10-16: 46.6%
    16 to 3 point: 44.2%

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPlayer View Post
    KD?
    10-16: 45.7%
    16 to 3 point: 44%

    So looks like I was wrong a bit about Paul being one of the best in history. He always gets praised for it so I just assumed without looking at a bunch of other players.

    One huge caveat to the "midrange is dead" crowd is that it's only really the superstars that are great at it. Triple threat scores are almost always superstars on offense. This whole moving away from midrange is more designed for players who suck at it and shouldn't be shooting those shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn View Post
    on basketball-reference.com and you have to look at each player and as far as I can tell you can't search for those shooting stats in their database.

    https://www.basketball-reference.com.../paulch01.html

    Kawhi:

    10-16: 46.6%
    16 to 3 point: 44.2%
    Thanks, pretty cool. Would love the numbers for Bird. Kawhi's meet the eyetest.

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    Default Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn View Post
    10-16: 45.7%
    16 to 3 point: 44%

    So looks like I was wrong a bit about Paul being one of the best in history. He always gets praised for it so I just assumed without looking at a bunch of other players.

    One huge caveat to the "midrange is dead" crowd is that it's only really the superstars that are great at it. Triple threat scores are almost always superstars on offense. This whole moving away from midrange is more designed for players who suck at it and shouldn't be shooting those shots.
    How were you wrong about Chris Paul?

    He had better percentages than all three guys?

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    Default Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?

    KD, Kawhi, CP3, Middleton etc are far better

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    Default Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation View Post
    How were you wrong about Chris Paul?

    He had better percentages than all three guys?
    Like clear cut.

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    Default Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?

    demar is a terrible defender. if he was even decent on that end then he'd be a huge asset.

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    Default Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by red1 View Post
    demar is a terrible defender. if he was even decent on that end then he'd be a huge asset.
    Give him Scottie Pippen and he would flourish

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation View Post
    Give him Scottie Pippen and he would flourish

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