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2020 Insidehoops MVP
is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?
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The Puppeteer
Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?
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The Puppeteer
Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?
Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn
Chris Paul
Just for reference here are the percentages for their career:
From 10'-16'
Derozan: 42.8%
Paul: 48.1%
From 16' to the 3 point line
Derozan: 38.5%
Paul: 46.1%
I don't have the data, not sure where you could even get it, but it wouldn't surprise me if Paul is statistically the best mid/long range shooter ever. Derozan just shoots a shit ton from those ranges which overrates his abilities. He isn't "bad" at it but he isn't elite.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?
Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn
Just for reference here are the percentages for their career:
From 10'-16'
Derozan: 42.8%
Paul: 48.1%
From 16' to the 3 point line
Derozan: 38.5%
Paul: 46.1%
I don't have the data, not sure where you could even get it, but it wouldn't surprise me if Paul is statistically the best mid/long range shooter ever. Derozan just shoots a shit ton from those ranges which overrates his abilities. He isn't "bad" at it but he isn't elite.
Where do you get the data from and is it available pre 00?
Can you check Kawhi's? I'd be pretty interested in his midrange numbers.
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Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?
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The Puppeteer
Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?
Originally Posted by Overdrive
Where do you get the data from and is it available pre 00?
Can you check Kawhi's? I'd be pretty interested in his midrange numbers.
on basketball-reference.com and you have to look at each player and as far as I can tell you can't search for those shooting stats in their database.
https://www.basketball-reference.com.../paulch01.html
Kawhi:
10-16: 46.6%
16 to 3 point: 44.2%
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The Puppeteer
Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?
Originally Posted by MaxPlayer
KD?
10-16: 45.7%
16 to 3 point: 44%
So looks like I was wrong a bit about Paul being one of the best in history. He always gets praised for it so I just assumed without looking at a bunch of other players.
One huge caveat to the "midrange is dead" crowd is that it's only really the superstars that are great at it. Triple threat scores are almost always superstars on offense. This whole moving away from midrange is more designed for players who suck at it and shouldn't be shooting those shots.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?
Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn
Thanks, pretty cool. Would love the numbers for Bird. Kawhi's meet the eyetest.
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I go HAM
Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?
Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn
10-16: 45.7%
16 to 3 point: 44%
So looks like I was wrong a bit about Paul being one of the best in history. He always gets praised for it so I just assumed without looking at a bunch of other players.
One huge caveat to the "midrange is dead" crowd is that it's only really the superstars that are great at it. Triple threat scores are almost always superstars on offense. This whole moving away from midrange is more designed for players who suck at it and shouldn't be shooting those shots.
How were you wrong about Chris Paul?
He had better percentages than all three guys?
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NBA Superstar
Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?
KD, Kawhi, CP3, Middleton etc are far better
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The Puppeteer
Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?
Originally Posted by TheCorporation
How were you wrong about Chris Paul?
He had better percentages than all three guys?
Like clear cut.
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Austin Reaves Fam
Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?
demar is a terrible defender. if he was even decent on that end then he'd be a huge asset.
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I go HAM
Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?
Originally Posted by red1
demar is a terrible defender. if he was even decent on that end then he'd be a huge asset.
Give him Scottie Pippen and he would flourish
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Austin Reaves Fam
Re: is Demar Derozan the best mid-range scorer in the league?
Originally Posted by TheCorporation
Give him Scottie Pippen and he would flourish
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