Michael Jordan's UNDERRATED years as a Wizard

[warriorfan]

46.8 TS%.




Yikes.

Looks like LeBrons efficiency in the 2015 Finals

[Vino24]

According to 3ball MJ wizards years didn’t happen

[fourkicks44]

How can an All-Star be underrated?

[Bronbron23]

As he was getting back into basketball shape, Jordan averaged 27.5 PPG, 6.4 APG, 5.2 RPG the last 20 games before his injury. 29.7 PPG, 6.6 APG, and 6.1 RPG the last 10 games. On pace to make the playoffs, which would had been a first for a sub 20 wins team. That's with Rip Hamilton missing 5 weeks with a groin injury. When he came back, the Wizards went on a 15 - 1 streak, with the best defense in the league. (On bball reference, I see that they won 13 games in a row with Rip, but that also includes games before the injury.)

Wizards had the 2nd worst defense in the league the year before in terms of PPG, number 6 best defense before Jordan's injury.

Not sure it was underrated. Given his age and taking a couple years off he was pretty good. He wasnt one of the best players in the league anymore but before the injury he was solid and had them in the hunt. Most people acknowledge this. The haters dont.

[jlip]

It is impossible for any aspect of MJ's career to be considered "underrated."

[FireDavidKahn]

WOW.

Jordan was holding back his teammates in Washington. Right from the horses mouth

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1248044241739288583

[nizroc]

Stackhouse had plenty of chances before and after playing with Jordan to prove he was better. Anyway, you putting that here isn’t much more than a red herring.

[jstern]

You can directly compared Jordan and Steakhouse when they played together right here https://www.basketball-reference.com.../WAS/2003.html

Stackhouse, while playing 2 more minutes per game than Jordan shot .409 from the field, averaging less assists and rebounds than him.

Didn't Jordan have a a revenge game against Stackhouse, because they played one on one when Stackhouse came into the league, and Stackhouse felt that Jordan wasn't that great, or felt that he was at the same level? He has a history of being delusional.

I think this was the revenge game

[Stanley Kobrick]

WOW.

Jordan was holding back his teammates in Washington. Right from the horses mouth

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1248044241739288583

wow, very fascinating

[iamgine]

Yeah he was still pretty good as a Wiz. Even showed flashes of greatness before ultimately burning out. I'd say he was equivalent to current Donovan Mitchell level if analogizing to today.

But we have to remember that he had pretty low NBA mileage at that point. His mileage was comparable to 2016 Lebron.

[Lebron23]

He missed the playoffs in the worst eastern conference era.

[SouBeachTalents]

Looks like LeBrons efficiency in the 2015 Finals

And he still got more FMVP votes than Curry

[LostCause]

Yeah he was still pretty good as a Wiz. Even showed flashes of greatness before ultimately burning out. I'd say he was equivalent to current Donovan Mitchell level if analogizing to today.

But we have to remember that he had pretty low NBA mileage at that point. His mileage was comparable to 2016 Lebron.

"Mileage" doesn't matter when you're up in the 38+ age range. Age alone robs you of far more than "mileage" would

LeBron could stop playing right now and not get any more "mileage" until he hits 38/39 and I guarantee that dropoff athletically will be gigantic and he'll never again be anywhere near the player he was when he last played, even with all this time to "rest". Age is always the most limiting factor

Do the same for Giannis. Same result

Its basic physiology

[iamgine]

"Mileage" doesn't matter when you're up in the 38+ age range. Age alone robs you of far more than "mileage" would

LeBron could stop playing right now and not get any more "mileage" until he hits 38/39 and I guarantee that dropoff athletically will be gigantic and he'll never again be anywhere near the player he was when he last played, even with all this time to "rest". Age is always the most limiting factor

Do the same for Giannis. Same result

Its basic physiology

Mileage does matter. So does age. So does nutrition and training.

[Phoenix]

"Mileage" doesn't matter when you're up in the 38+ age range. Age alone robs you of far more than "mileage" would

LeBron could stop playing right now and not get any more "mileage" until he hits 38/39 and I guarantee that dropoff athletically will be gigantic and he'll never again be anywhere near the player he was when he last played, even with all this time to "rest". Age is always the most limiting factor

Do the same for Giannis. Same result

Its basic physiology

Some of these people act like if MJ had retired at 30 in 93.....then came back at 38 in 2001 because he 'rested' for 8 years he's going to come back with 30 year old athleticism lol. At a certain point age and attrition takes hold no matter what. I think MJ actually would have been better off just playing all the way through 98 then retiring. He missed prime production and likely left some legacy bullet points on the table( probably the 94 title at least, FMVP, a couple of scoring titles, points, etc).

His Wizard years were fascinating in terms of what an older MJ could do but it had the effect of adversely impacting his stats as well. His scoring average in particular dipped from like 32 to 30 just edging out Wilt, when he had a distinct ppg edge after 98 when he walked away the 2nd time.