RIP America - Those who would give up liberty for (supposed) safety deserve neither

[Nanners]

We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that any of us have seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and people applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and people applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and people applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and people applaud. A lone paddle boarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and people applaud. Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and people applaud. People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and people applaud.

People are told to use hotlines and online forms provided by their local governments to report their neighbors who don't obey, and they comply. People scold others day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, they get a lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

People somehow managed to convince themselves that the relatively small number of sick old people who are affected by the virus (people who would be affected by any virus) are much more important than the orders of magnitude more whose lives are being completely destroyed by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber?

If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it? Many of you would, and the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused to take our families with you, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because so many of you gladly do that voluntarily.

They control your mind by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place... but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY AND HELP TO ENFORCE THEIR RULES.

- Unknown author

[Akeem34TheDream]

People somehow managed to convince themselves that the relatively small number of sick old people who are affected by the virus

Small relative to what?

And do you really think its all about governments? Do governments even have any gain from this lockdown? All humanity is getting affected financially and mentally. But NO. We evil people are applauding evil governments to keep you home. Wow bro you are such a freedom warrior. I can understand that you disagree with this lockdown but what's with these conspiracy theories and agitations?

[~primetime~]

The Gov is out to enslave us all !!!

To me this is worse fear mongering than the threat of virus.

Also arrest numbers are down, jail populations are down, people are being released due to covid. For some this virus is literally freedom.

[~primetime~]

Small relative to what?

And do you really think its all about governments? Do governments even have any gain from this lockdown? All humanity is getting affected financially and mentally. But NO. We evil people are applauding evil governments to keep you home. Wow bro you are such a freedom warrior. I can understand that you disagree with this lockdown but what's with these conspiracy theories and agitations?

Exactly, Govs have nothing to gain but inflation.

And the countries who didnt take social distancing seriously (Italy) are the ones who suffered the most.

[Nanners]

Small relative to what?

~5k senior citizens die every day in america. in the 3 months since covid was first detected in the US, 16k people have "died" from it (the true death count is probably around a quarter of that)

~600k will die to cancer this year, should we crash our economy and give up our civil rights for them?

~70k americans died last year because they were unable to afford healthcare. We can afford to destroy the economy and put tens of millions out of work, but we cant afford to offer life saving medical care to 70k poor people?

And do you really think its all about governments? Do governments even have any gain from this lockdown? All humanity is getting affected financially and mentally. But NO. We evil people are applauding evil governments to keep you home. Wow bro you are such a freedom warrior. I can understand that you disagree with this lockdown but what's with these conspiracy theories and agitations?

Did you really just ask me if governments have anything to gain from taking away the rights of their people? lol

[tpols]

Exactly, Govs have nothing to gain but inflation.

And the countries who didnt take social distancing seriously (Italy) are the ones who suffered the most.

they're using it as political leverage to win elections.

you're going to be eating a loot of crow by the end of this.

[Nanners]

The Gov is out to enslave us all !!!

To me this is worse fear mongering than the threat of virus.

Also arrest numbers are down, jail populations are down, people are being released due to covid. For some this virus is literally freedom.

Its not actually the govt, its the wealthy interests that control the govt.

Anyway, nobody will ever have to enslave you... because you gladly enslave yourself.

[~primetime~]

they're using it as political leverage to win elections.

you're going to be eating a loot of crow by the end of this.

Politicians SHOULD focus on this event during election time.

What crow will I be eating? This being a big conspiracy will come to light?

No...the virus will go away, conspiracy theories will be forgotten, and people like you will move on to the next event to declare the Gov is out to get us all!

[~primetime~]

Only 3,000 died during the 9/11 attack. Should we have ignored that because that number is tiny relative to cancer deaths?

[BarberSchool]

We’ll never die, Nanners.
Those who wish to poison and destroy us will.

[Akeem34TheDream]

~5k senior citizens die every day in america. in the 3 months since covid was first detected in the US, 16k people have "died" from it (the true death count is probably around a quarter of that)

~600k will die to cancer this year, should we crash our economy and give up our civil rights for them?

~70k americans died last year because they were unable to afford healthcare. We can afford to destroy the economy and put tens of millions out of work, but we cant afford to offer life saving medical care to 70k poor people?



Did you really just ask me if governments have anything to gain from taking away the rights of their people? lol

Do you own a business, my friend? Because this level of ignorance can only come from some sort of bias. Governments can just ignore it and would probably be affected less financially(short term at least). NOBODY cares about you going outside or not(under normal circumstances). Priority wise making more money is a lot more important than keeping you home. But experts say that its better for long term. So put your back in your home, stop crying and stop victimizing yourself. And those numbers could be a lot more if no precautions were taken. Follow some international news. Widen your view.

[Nanners]

Only 3,000 died during the 9/11 attack. Should we have ignored that because that number is tiny relative to cancer deaths?

LOL, thank you for proving my point.

Like our response to covid, we made the worst possible choices when we responded to the Saudi/Israeli 9/11 attack by invading Afghanistan/Iraq and killing hundreds of thousands or millions of civilians (while making millions more homeless), passing the patriot act which normalized a mass surveillance system that was blatantly unconstitution, setting up a network of overseas black site prisons where we tortured the thousands of people we illegal kidnapped... all while wasting trillions of taxpayer dollars.

[tpols]

Politicians SHOULD focus on this event during election time.

What crow will I be eating? This being a big conspiracy will come to light?

No...the virus will go away, conspiracy theories will be forgotten, and people like you will move on to the next event to declare the Gov is out to get us all!

the crow where you bought into it all 1000% and tried fear mongering everybody quoting shit like a 14% death rate.

this shit has killed less than a regular cold or flu season and you ran with it full speed at the beginning.

[Nanners]

Do you own a business, my friend? Because this level of ignorance can only come from some sort of bias. Governments can just ignore it and would probably be affected less financially(short term at least). NOBODY cares about you going outside or not(under normal circumstances). Priority wise making more money is a lot more important than keeping you home. But experts say that its better for long term. So put your back in your home, stop crying and stop victimizing yourself. And those numbers could be a lot more if no precautions were taken. Follow some international news. Widen your view.

What an idiotic and condescendingly privileged point of view

You think that business owners are the only ones who want society to re-open? Half of all american workers cannot afford a $400 emergency, and while the virus has ended income for millions, it has not stopped their bills from piling up. Even in states with temporary no-eviction orders, people still owe rent for this month and they will be expected to pay the full amount in a month or two or whenver these no-eviction orders are lifted. In addition to the rent piling up, these people still have to pay for food, phone/internet, insurance, cars, etc...

The people who are being hurt the most by this are not the business owners, its the millions of people who are barely able to pay their bills each month.

[~primetime~]

the crow where you bought into it all 1000% and tried fear mongering everybody quoting shit like a 14% death rate.

this shit has killed less than a regular cold or flu season and you ran with it full speed at the beginning.

No quite the opposite...open up the covid thread, I was saying it was nothing to worry about from the start and that the media was over hyping the virus.

I didn't even think it would make it to the US after Trump shut down China travel.

Now that it is here...and we have the advantage of seeing what countries are having the most success vs which countries are suffering the most, we can see the countries who took this seriously are the ones fairing best. Wuhan had a fully enforced lock down and they are now open for business. Italy had a laid back attitude and are dealing with flooded hospitals and having more problems.