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    Default It's possible European diseases weren't solely responsible for killing off the native

    ...populations in the Americas.

    It's very possible an indigenous viral hemorrhagic fever(similar to Ebola)known as cocoliztli was the primary culprit. This would make sense since something wiped out the Maya before the Europeans arrived. The Maya were not only by far the most advanced civilization in the Americas, one could make a case for the entire world in some fields of mathematics and astrology.

    Another interesting factoid, is that smallpox was determined to have only a 40% mortality rate among the Mexican/Central American natives. So it wasn't smallpox alone that did all the damage. Oddly enough smallpox was much more deadly among North American Indians(55%-100% mortality rate depending on tribe). This might be because the Europeans taught the natives the treatment of variolation to fight it off.

    The article does state the European rats may have been the vector that allowed this disease to travel much easier and cause much more damage though.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2730237/

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    Default Re: It's possible European diseases weren't solely responsible for killing off the na

    Not disputing the disease portion of this post, it’s an interesting study.

    But this, brother:
    Quote Originally Posted by Long Duck Dong
    The Maya were not only by far the most advanced civilization in the Americas, one could make a case for the entire world in some fields of mathematics and astrology.
    The America’s before Europeans (Spaniards, Portuguese) showed up? Sure, no debate there.

    But ENTIRE WORLD ?????? Naaaaaaaaaah.
    Arabs & Persians invented Astrolabes and named all the stars before 1000AD. While the Maya were literally murdering people on top of ziggurats DAILY, in fear of the sun not rising again the following day if they didn’t.

    Their contributions to math and science are all drastically overstated. They were a primitive barbaric culture who only built large structures, by use of forced slave exploitation from their own population.

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    Default Re: It's possible European diseases weren't solely responsible for killing off the na

    As we can see from this pandemic, a virus has no boundries and is not exclusive to a race. We don't have the data to know where these plagues originated from do we?

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    Default Re: It's possible European diseases weren't solely responsible for killing off the na

    Quote Originally Posted by Long Duck Dong View Post
    ...populations in the Americas.

    It's very possible an indigenous viral hemorrhagic fever(similar to Ebola)known as cocoliztli was the primary culprit. This would make sense since something wiped out the Maya before the Europeans arrived. The Maya were not only by far the most advanced civilization in the Americas, one could make a case for the entire world in some fields of mathematics and astrology.

    Another interesting factoid, is that smallpox was determined to have only a 40% mortality rate among the Mexican/Central American natives. So it wasn't smallpox alone that did all the damage. Oddly enough smallpox was much more deadly among North American Indians(55%-100% mortality rate depending on tribe). This might be because the Europeans taught the natives the treatment of variolation to fight it off.

    The article does state the European rats may have been the vector that allowed this disease to travel much easier and cause much more damage though.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2730237/
    Bro, no need to insult white people like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorP View Post
    And when you kill a man you're a murderer
    Kill many and you're a conqueror
    Kill them all and you're a God

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    Greatest thing to happen to the world in the last 500 years.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing View Post
    Greatest thing to happen to the world in the last 500 years.


    Such an underrated movie


    Mel Gibson put out some gory classics

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    Default Re: It's possible European diseases weren't solely responsible for killing off the na

    Nice. I can feel my white guilt withering away now.

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    Bro, no need to insult white people like that.

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