View Poll Results: Who was better playoff and Finals performer: 16-17' Kyrie or 96-98' Pippen?

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  • Kyrie averaged 26 on 47% in PO... 28 on 46% in Finals

    9 32.14%
  • Pipp' averaged 18 on 41% in PO... 18 on 39% in Finals

    19 67.86%
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  1. #121
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    Default Re: Better Finals Performer

    Can anyone name a better performance by a second star in the NBA Finals? The only one's I'd concede are maybe Steph in 2017 and 2018, but neither of those should count since Warriors 2016-2019 healthy broke basketball (KD and Steph had no business being on the same team).

    Kyrie Irving in Games 3-7 in the 2016 NBA Finals (played like garbo games 1-2) -

    Game 3: 30 points, 8 assists, 4 rebounds

    Game 4: 34 points, 4 assists, 4 rebounds

    Game 5: 41 points, 6 assists, 3 rebounds

    Game 6: 23 points, 3 assists, 4 rebounds

    Game 7: 26 points, 1 assist, 6 rebounds

    5 game average: 30.8 points, 4.4 assists, 4.4 rebounds

    I don't think any other player has ever played that well over a 5 game stretch in the NBA Finals and rightfully not won NBA Finals MVP. Can anyone think of sometime of note? The only ones I think are somewhat comparable are 2002 Kobe and 2017/2018 Steph (Which I don't think should count).

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    Default Re: Better Finals Performer

    Well, look, Kyrie missed a Finals. An entire series. Love too.

    Pippen was always there. So was Grant and Rodman for that matter. Those guys were not injury prone.

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    Default Re: Better Finals Performer

    Pip: 18
    Kyrie: 9


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    Default Re: Better Finals Performer

    Quote Originally Posted by 2ball View Post
    Can anyone name a better performance by a second star in the NBA Finals? The only one's I'd concede are maybe Steph in 2017 and 2018, but neither of those should count since Warriors 2016-2019 healthy broke basketball (KD and Steph had no business being on the same team).

    Kyrie Irving in Games 3-7 in the 2016 NBA Finals (played like garbo games 1-2) -

    Game 3: 30 points, 8 assists, 4 rebounds

    Game 4: 34 points, 4 assists, 4 rebounds

    Game 5: 41 points, 6 assists, 3 rebounds

    Game 6: 23 points, 3 assists, 4 rebounds

    Game 7: 26 points, 1 assist, 6 rebounds

    5 game average: 30.8 points, 4.4 assists, 4.4 rebounds

    I don't think any other player has ever played that well over a 5 game stretch in the NBA Finals and rightfully not won NBA Finals MVP. Can anyone think of sometime of note? The only ones I think are somewhat comparable are 2002 Kobe and 2017/2018 Steph (Which I don't think should count).
    Are you giving LeBron a compliment? You're asking how did a player like Kyrie who played SO WELL that how the hell did he not win a Finals MVP?

    Oh. Heh. Because his teammate LeBron played even better. DOH

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    Default Re: Better Finals Performer

    No love for 2016 Westbrook and his 27/11/7/4 line? This is how it goes these days?

    2016 WCF (Thunder vs Warriors)
    Westbrook 27-11-7-4

    "Westbrook SUX, KD need more help!"

    2016 Finals (Cavaliers vs Warriors)
    Kyrie 27-4-4-2

    "Kyrie is so good, LBJ has too much help!"

    Whut

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    Default Re: Better Finals Performer

    PIPPENīs broken down stats. You say he was NOT A TOP 10 PLAYER IN THE 90's? Check This Out

    Player Efficiency Rating

    1990-91 NBA 20.6 (20th)
    1991-92 NBA 21.5 (13th)
    1993-94 NBA 23.2 (4th)*Without Jordan
    1994-95 NBA 22.6 (7th)
    1995-96 NBA 21.0 (15th)
    1996-97 NBA 21.3 (17th)
    1997-98 NBA 20.4 (19th)

    Box Plus/Minus

    1990-91 NBA 5.8 (10th)
    1991-92 NBA 6.1 (6th)
    1992-93 NBA 4.0 (14th)
    1993-94 NBA 7.7 (3rd)*Without Jordan
    1994-95 NBA 7.5 (3rd)
    1995-96 NBA 6.3 (8th)
    1996-97 NBA 5.7 (9th)

    Offensive Box Plus/Minus

    1990-91 NBA 3.2 (16th)
    1991-92 NBA 4.1 (11th)
    1993-94 NBA 4.5 (5th)*Without Jordan
    1994-95 NBA 4.4 (8th)
    1995-96 NBA 4.6 (9th)
    1996-97 NBA 4.3 (14th)
    1997-98 NBA 3.3 (17th)
    1997-98 NBA 5.0 (8th)
    1999-00 NBA 3.6 (20th)

    Defensive Box Plus/Minus

    1987-88 NBA 1.3 (19th)
    1990-91 NBA 2.5 (7th)
    1991-92 NBA 2.0 (12th)
    1993-94 NBA 3.2 (5th) *Without Jordan
    1994-95 NBA 3.0 (3rd)
    1995-96 NBA 1.7 (17th)
    1997-98 NBA 1.6 (19th)
    2001-02 NBA 1.6 (14th)
    2002-03 NBA 1.6 (19th

    Value Over Replacement Player

    1990-91 NBA 5.9 (10th)
    1991-92 NBA 6.4 (5th)
    1992-93 NBA 4.7 (9th)
    1993-94 NBA 6.8 (5th)*Without Jordan
    1994-95 NBA 7.2 (3rd)
    1995-96 NBA 5.9 (7th)
    1996-97 NBA 6.1 (8th)
    1999-00 NBA 3.9 (19th)



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    Default Re: Who was the better Playoff and Finals Performer

    Almost all of Kyrie's votes are from Jordan stans.

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