View Poll Results: Who was better playoff and Finals performer: 16-17' Kyrie or 96-98' Pippen?
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05-24-2020, 11:38 PM
#121
Dunking on everybody in the park
Re: Better Finals Performer
Can anyone name a better performance by a second star in the NBA Finals? The only one's I'd concede are maybe Steph in 2017 and 2018, but neither of those should count since Warriors 2016-2019 healthy broke basketball (KD and Steph had no business being on the same team).
Kyrie Irving in Games 3-7 in the 2016 NBA Finals (played like garbo games 1-2) -
Game 3: 30 points, 8 assists, 4 rebounds
Game 4: 34 points, 4 assists, 4 rebounds
Game 5: 41 points, 6 assists, 3 rebounds
Game 6: 23 points, 3 assists, 4 rebounds
Game 7: 26 points, 1 assist, 6 rebounds
5 game average: 30.8 points, 4.4 assists, 4.4 rebounds
I don't think any other player has ever played that well over a 5 game stretch in the NBA Finals and rightfully not won NBA Finals MVP. Can anyone think of sometime of note? The only ones I think are somewhat comparable are 2002 Kobe and 2017/2018 Steph (Which I don't think should count).
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05-24-2020, 11:42 PM
#122
Decent college freshman
Re: Better Finals Performer
Well, look, Kyrie missed a Finals. An entire series. Love too.
Pippen was always there. So was Grant and Rodman for that matter. Those guys were not injury prone.
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05-24-2020, 11:50 PM
#123
Banned
Re: Better Finals Performer
Pip: 18
Kyrie: 9
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05-24-2020, 11:51 PM
#124
Banned
Re: Better Finals Performer
Originally Posted by 2ball
Can anyone name a better performance by a second star in the NBA Finals? The only one's I'd concede are maybe Steph in 2017 and 2018, but neither of those should count since Warriors 2016-2019 healthy broke basketball (KD and Steph had no business being on the same team).
Kyrie Irving in Games 3-7 in the 2016 NBA Finals (played like garbo games 1-2) -
Game 3: 30 points, 8 assists, 4 rebounds
Game 4: 34 points, 4 assists, 4 rebounds
Game 5: 41 points, 6 assists, 3 rebounds
Game 6: 23 points, 3 assists, 4 rebounds
Game 7: 26 points, 1 assist, 6 rebounds
5 game average: 30.8 points, 4.4 assists, 4.4 rebounds
I don't think any other player has ever played that well over a 5 game stretch in the NBA Finals and rightfully not won NBA Finals MVP. Can anyone think of sometime of note? The only ones I think are somewhat comparable are 2002 Kobe and 2017/2018 Steph (Which I don't think should count).
Are you giving LeBron a compliment? You're asking how did a player like Kyrie who played SO WELL that how the hell did he not win a Finals MVP?
Oh. Heh. Because his teammate LeBron played even better. DOH
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05-25-2020, 12:01 AM
#125
Banned
Re: Better Finals Performer
No love for 2016 Westbrook and his 27/11/7/4 line? This is how it goes these days?
2016 WCF (Thunder vs Warriors)
Westbrook 27-11-7-4
"Westbrook SUX, KD need more help!"
2016 Finals (Cavaliers vs Warriors)
Kyrie 27-4-4-2
"Kyrie is so good, LBJ has too much help!"
Whut
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05-25-2020, 12:43 AM
#126
Very good NBA starter
Re: Better Finals Performer
PIPPENīs broken down stats. You say he was NOT A TOP 10 PLAYER IN THE 90's? Check This Out
Player Efficiency Rating
1990-91 NBA 20.6 (20th)
1991-92 NBA 21.5 (13th)
1993-94 NBA 23.2 (4th)*Without Jordan
1994-95 NBA 22.6 (7th)
1995-96 NBA 21.0 (15th)
1996-97 NBA 21.3 (17th)
1997-98 NBA 20.4 (19th)
Box Plus/Minus
1990-91 NBA 5.8 (10th)
1991-92 NBA 6.1 (6th)
1992-93 NBA 4.0 (14th)
1993-94 NBA 7.7 (3rd)*Without Jordan
1994-95 NBA 7.5 (3rd)
1995-96 NBA 6.3 (8th)
1996-97 NBA 5.7 (9th)
Offensive Box Plus/Minus
1990-91 NBA 3.2 (16th)
1991-92 NBA 4.1 (11th)
1993-94 NBA 4.5 (5th)*Without Jordan
1994-95 NBA 4.4 (8th)
1995-96 NBA 4.6 (9th)
1996-97 NBA 4.3 (14th)
1997-98 NBA 3.3 (17th)
1997-98 NBA 5.0 (8th)
1999-00 NBA 3.6 (20th)
Defensive Box Plus/Minus
1987-88 NBA 1.3 (19th)
1990-91 NBA 2.5 (7th)
1991-92 NBA 2.0 (12th)
1993-94 NBA 3.2 (5th) *Without Jordan
1994-95 NBA 3.0 (3rd)
1995-96 NBA 1.7 (17th)
1997-98 NBA 1.6 (19th)
2001-02 NBA 1.6 (14th)
2002-03 NBA 1.6 (19th
Value Over Replacement Player
1990-91 NBA 5.9 (10th)
1991-92 NBA 6.4 (5th)
1992-93 NBA 4.7 (9th)
1993-94 NBA 6.8 (5th)*Without Jordan
1994-95 NBA 7.2 (3rd)
1995-96 NBA 5.9 (7th)
1996-97 NBA 6.1 (8th)
1999-00 NBA 3.9 (19th)
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05-25-2020, 10:15 AM
#127
Consensus Top 20-30 AT
Re: Who was the better Playoff and Finals Performer
Almost all of Kyrie's votes are from Jordan stans.
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