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    Default Re: Kendrick Perkins: 選t Was A Lot Easier To Win Against Kobe Bryant Than It Was LeB

    Quote Originally Posted by 999Guy View Post
    History痴 been kind to Kobe痴 playoff reputation. He has had many duds against high level defenses. Even in his title years with Gasol.

    The reality is, the Lakers had an amazing defensive cast around Kobe all the way down to athletic role guys like Sasha and Brown.

    Fisher/Odom/Gasol/Ariza/Vuj is a nutty defensive cast.


    Kobe played worse than LeBron against the Celtics with a far better team, and worse than CP3 against the Spurs with a far better team.

    Gasol was a high level offensive big. LA had a crazy offense with him for the couple months they had him.

    LA痴 ORTG against SA: 103

    Won easily though. Why? 97 DRTG.

    Chris Paul led them to 107 ORTG against the same team on pure half court ball. A pace of just 85.

    NO had a TOV rate of 8.9%.

    23/11/5/2.6 on 55 TS% and 2.2 TOV.

    I don稚 even know why Kobe gets compared to LeBron.

    His peers are the Wade, CP3痴 and Dirk痴 of the league. And even they all arguably topped him in his prime to 2011.

    Fortunate career of loaded teams.
    Bingo.

    Most are afraid to say it.

    Kobe was a glorified chuck machine surrounded by the best casts in the NBA for 14/17 years.

    Anything beyond is just romanticizing the image and thoughts we attach to him.

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    Default Re: Kendrick Perkins: 選t Was A Lot Easier To Win Against Kobe Bryant Than It Was LeB

    Quote Originally Posted by 999Guy View Post
    History’s been kind to Kobe’s playoff reputation. He has had many duds against high level defenses. Even in his title years with Gasol.

    The reality is, the Lakers had an amazing defensive cast around Kobe all the way down to athletic role guys like Sasha and Brown.

    Fisher/Odom/Gasol/Ariza/Vuj is a nutty defensive cast.


    Kobe played worse than LeBron against the Celtics with a far better team, and worse than CP3 against the Spurs with a far better team.

    Gasol was a high level offensive big. LA had a crazy offense with him for the couple months they had him.

    LA’s ORTG against SA: 103

    Won easily though. Why? 97 DRTG.

    Chris Paul led them to 107 ORTG against the same team on pure half court ball. A pace of just 85.

    NO had a TOV rate of 8.9%.

    23/11/5/2.6 on 55 TS% and 2.2 TOV.

    I don’t even know why Kobe gets compared to LeBron.

    His peers are the Wade, CP3’s and Dirk’s of the league. And even they all arguably topped him in his prime to 2011.

    Fortunate career of loaded teams.
    Well, they say that kobe has defeated a lot of 50-win teams in the postseason and that he did so in a more stacked conference.

    In Lebron's case tho, how many times?

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    Default Re: Kendrick Perkins: 選t Was A Lot Easier To Win Against Kobe Bryant Than It Was LeB

    Wow. Sasha Vujecic an athletic wing now? Lol.

    Fish was 'nutty' on defense? Lol.

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    Default Re: Kendrick Perkins: 選t Was A Lot Easier To Win Against Kobe Bryant Than It Was LeB

    Someone referring to Sasha Vujecic as an athletic role player and people cosigning it tells you all that you need to know. To some people, watching basketball is just an afterthought.

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    Default Re: Kendrick Perkins: 選t Was A Lot Easier To Win Against Kobe Bryant Than It Was LeB

    "hard to beat Lebron"

    Game 1 - 2/18, 10 turnovers
    Game 2 - 6/24, 7 turnovers
    Game 3 - 5/16, 2 turnvers
    Game 4 - 7/20 4 turnovers

    Series was tied 2-2 with Lebron averaging 18.8 ppg and 5.8 tov on 26/25/70 splits. Cavs lost Game 1 @Boston by 4 points, despite Lebron going 2/18 & 10 turnovers for a 12/9/9 stat line & with a -7.

    Kobe goes 30/4/8/3 on 11/23 shooting with a +8 in Game 2 and his team loses the game by 6 points, outscored by 14 points in the 7 something minutes he rested. Lakers couldn't win any game where Kobe was even slightly off while the Cavs won two of those. Cavs should have been up 3 - 1 in that series, and it would have likely been done in 6. Lebron had a great Game 7, but he did get his ass busted by PP and disappeared in crunch time.
    Last edited by ImKobe; 05-25-2020 at 08:52 AM.

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    Default Re: Kendrick Perkins: 選t Was A Lot Easier To Win Against Kobe Bryant Than It Was LeB

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    those Heat teams were harder to beat.
    No they weren't.

    Sincerely yours, Jason

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    Default Re: Kendrick Perkins: 選t Was A Lot Easier To Win Against Kobe Bryant Than It Was LeB

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Well, they say that kobe has defeated a lot of 50-win teams in the postseason and that he did so in a more stacked conference.

    In Lebron's case tho, how many times?
    It's 19-15 Kobe's way from my last re-count

    (I don't count the series where Shaq obviously carried)

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    Default Re: Kendrick Perkins: 選t Was A Lot Easier To Win Against Kobe Bryant Than It Was LeB

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueBorg View Post
    No they weren't.

    Sincerely yours, Jason
    I mean you've never beat a single Lebron team so how would you know? Poor little boy is still mad Lebron went to Miami over Chicago. Chicago couldn't even get Melo

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    Default Re: Kendrick Perkins: 選t Was A Lot Easier To Win Against Kobe Bryant Than It Was LeB

    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam View Post
    It's 19-15 Kobe's way from my last re-count

    (I don't count the series where Shaq obviously carried)
    Bran did 15 times??

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    Default Re: Kendrick Perkins: 選t Was A Lot Easier To Win Against Kobe Bryant Than It Was LeB

    Quote Originally Posted by 999Guy View Post
    History痴 been kind to Kobe痴 playoff reputation. He has had many duds against high level defenses. Even in his title years with Gasol.

    The reality is, the Lakers had an amazing defensive cast around Kobe all the way down to athletic role guys like Sasha and Brown.

    Fisher/Odom/Gasol/Ariza/Vuj is a nutty defensive cast.


    Kobe played worse than LeBron against the Celtics with a far better team, and worse than CP3 against the Spurs with a far better team.

    Gasol was a high level offensive big. LA had a crazy offense with him for the couple months they had him.

    LA痴 ORTG against SA: 103

    Won easily though. Why? 97 DRTG.

    Chris Paul led them to 107 ORTG against the same team on pure half court ball. A pace of just 85.

    NO had a TOV rate of 8.9%.

    23/11/5/2.6 on 55 TS% and 2.2 TOV.

    I don稚 even know why Kobe gets compared to LeBron.

    His peers are the Wade, CP3痴 and Dirk痴 of the league. And even they all arguably topped him in his prime to 2011.

    Fortunate career of loaded teams.
    I agree with you 999guy

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    Default Re: Kendrick Perkins: 選t Was A Lot Easier To Win Against Kobe Bryant Than It Was LeB

    Brian Scalabrine > Kendrick Perkins

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    Default Re: Kendrick Perkins: 選t Was A Lot Easier To Win Against Kobe Bryant Than It Was LeB

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleverness View Post
    Brian Scalabrine > Kendrick Perkins
    They used to be teammates in the 2008 championship roster of the Cs

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