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NBA rookie of the year
Re: How overrated has Klay Thompson become?
OP getting destroyed and failing to make a coherent point per usual.
Damn this guy sucks lol, nobody takes him seriously and rightfully so
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Local High School Star
Re: How overrated has Klay Thompson become?
Reggie is a better clutch performer than Klay Thompson.
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Euros rule NBA, UMAD?
Re: How overrated has Klay Thompson become?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: How overrated has Klay Thompson become?
Blaze please clean my thread of the spams and trolls on this page.
I swear i wont argue with you anymore if you do.
it's gotten out of hand.
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... on a leash
Re: How overrated has Klay Thompson become?
In a few yrs tpols will declare Klay an ordinary sidekick for Curry purposes
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Decent college freshman
Re: How overrated has Klay Thompson become?
Originally Posted by tpols
His playoff ORTG is 107.
Ray Allen who plays the exact same way... 115.
Reggie Miller who plays the exact same way... 120+.
I admit he's clutch... but so were they!
Ray and Reggie have more GOAT clutch moments than Klay.
Here's the thing...
Highest Career Playoff ORTGs:
Horace Grant - 122
Magic Johnson - 122
Kevin McHale - 122
Steve Kerr - 121
Terry Porter - 119
Reggie Miller - 119
John Paxson - 119
John Salley - 118
A.C. Green - 118
Michael Jordan - 118
I don't really think it means that much.
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Consensus Top 20-30 AT
Re: How overrated has Klay Thompson become?
Originally Posted by light
Here's the thing...
Highest Career Playoff ORTGs:
Horace Grant - 122
Magic Johnson - 122
Kevin McHale - 122
Steve Kerr - 121
Terry Porter - 119
Reggie Miller - 119
John Paxson - 119
John Salley - 118
A.C. Green - 118
Michael Jordan - 118
I don't really think it means that much.
Horace Grant is the GOAT then!
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Boom Baby!
Re: How overrated has Klay Thompson become?
Second and third option types tend to get overrated because the gravity of the defense will always go to the main guy making them look better on mostly single coverage defense.
Kyrie thinking he will have the same impact after Lebron is an example. Having the pressure of the franchise in his shoulders didnt really turn out well. Another one is Draymond wherein everyone expected a huge season from him considering that the best players on the team got injured but we all know what happened.
Defense is not that big of a gap when comparing Klay, Ray and Reggie. Ray when he came to boston became a better defender and did a decent job on kobe while Miller did have the good Jordan defender rep with their many battles on the 90s. Mj even acknowledge him as the one he hated playing against on both ends of the floor.
Miller is better because he has lead his own teams to deep playoff runs without having alltime great talents on his team. He did not "carry" them but he was their unquestioned leader and best player.
You could nitpick all his bad games all you want (every player has them) but you cant rewrite him leading the Pacers to 5 conference finals and a finals berth as the franchise player of the Pacers.
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Re: How overrated has Klay Thompson become?
I don't think he is a super star, so there is not any overrated
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NBA Legend
Re: How overrated has Klay Thompson become?
One of the greatest shooting guards of all time; dare I say, The Greatest.
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Titles are overrated
Re: How overrated has Klay Thompson become?
Miller is better because he has lead his own teams to deep playoff runs without having alltime great talents on his team.
Nobody is better than anyone else because of anything that isn’t an aspect of playing a game. You can have a greater career but that isn’t what “better” means.
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Re: How overrated has Klay Thompson become?
Klay balled out in 2019, but his other Finals are somewhat mediocre, even before Durant got there.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: How overrated has Klay Thompson become?
Originally Posted by light
Here's the thing...
Highest Career Playoff ORTGs:
Horace Grant - 122
Magic Johnson - 122
Kevin McHale - 122
Steve Kerr - 121
Terry Porter - 119
Reggie Miller - 119
John Paxson - 119
John Salley - 118
A.C. Green - 118
Michael Jordan - 118
I don't really think it means that much.
It's a very flawed stat, the stat nerds will say you need to use "usage" along with "ORTG", but even that is flawed.
For example, '94 postseason Grant had a an ORTG of 126 and usage of 18.
In the '09 postseason, Gasol had a 124 ORTG with a usuage of 18.8.
Was Grant a better offensive player than Gasol during that time? Hell no, Grant averaged 16/7/3 in that postseason compared to Gasol's 18/11/3, on the eye test alone we know Gasol could actually create for himself in the post on a consistent basis and was a very good passer, Grant was never as skilled as Gasol.
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Banned
Re: How overrated has Klay Thompson become?
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
It's a very flawed stat, the stat nerds will say you need to use "usage" along with "ORTG", but even that is flawed.
For example, '94 postseason Grant had a an ORTG of 126 and usage of 18.
In the '09 postseason, Gasol had a 124 ORTG with a usuage of 18.8.
Was Grant a better offensive player than Gasol during that time? Hell no, Grant averaged 16/7/3 in that postseason compared to Gasol's 18/11/3, on the eye test alone we know Gasol could actually create for himself in the post on a consistent basis and was a very good passer, Grant was never as skilled as Gasol.
Exactly. If you compare options to options, and look at defense, then it makes more sense.
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Banned
Re: How overrated has Klay Thompson become?
Originally Posted by Monta Ellis MVP
Reggie is a better clutch performer than Klay Thompson.
Straight from WelfareFans alt. Ouch. Arent you a Warriors fan.
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