The 90s Seattle Supersonics were badly weird. Check it out

[Whoah10115]

Cornball way -not too mentioned thinly veiled- of saying LeBron > Jordan.

[Duncan21formvp]

Yeah but no one is on their nuts propping them up as the super mighty team. This Sad Seattle Superchokers was a team of chokers (94 1 seed to 8 seed choke) and (95 lose with 3 all stars to zero) gave MJ more trouble than any team ever.

So 2011 Heat and 2012 Heat were the same? 2013 Heat and 2014 were same? They had same stars each years.

[Rico2016]

Look at Payton in the 93' WCF: 12/4/4 on 46%.

Payton was Seattle's 5th leading scorer in the series and even in assists only 3rd.

This was MJ's toughest opponet?? Like WHAT

[Duncan21formvp]

This was MJ's toughest opponet?? Like WHAT

Lebron's toughest was Carlos Arroyo and he brought home bronze medal in the olympics.

[iamgine]

Look at Payton in the 93' WCF: 12/4/4 on 46%.

Payton was Seattle's 5th leading scorer in the series and even in assists only 3rd.

That wasn't strange though. In '93, Payton was 4th/5th in scoring in his own team. He wasn't the Gary Payton the star yet.

He truly made the leap to stardom only in '95. Kemp left after '97. So their window was only from '95-'97.

[GimmeThat]

seems they correlated height/size with FG by distance, instead the ability to stretch spacing.

in other words, similar to the Seahawks, a QB's ability to run is inherited limited by such mentality.

[Melenaxlc]

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[lucky001]

George Karl is way overrated as a coach. Sonics were a .500 playoff team under his watch.

Good coaches adjust mid game. An average playoff coach will adjust between games. But 1 time coach of the year winner George Karl waited until the series was over to let his best perimeter defender guard mj.

[Melenaxlc]

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[Roundball_Rock]

That wasn't strange though. In '93, Payton was 4th/5th in scoring in his own team. He wasn't the Gary Payton the star yet.

He truly made the leap to stardom only in '95. Kemp left after '97. So their window was only from '95-'97.

True but according to some on ISH Payton was the best perimeter player of the 90's so he has to be held accountable for 93' then.

George Karl is way overrated as a coach. Sonics were a .500 playoff team under his watch.

What can he do if Kemp chokes and Payton is a no show?

[iamgine]

True but according to some on ISH Payton was the best perimeter player of the 90's so he has to be held accountable for 93' then.

Maybe from '95 onwards he was but before that he really wasn't.

[Monta Ellis MVP]

True but according to some on ISH Payton was the best perimeter player of the 90's so he has to be held accountable for 93' then.



What can he do if Kemp chokes and Payton is a no show?

Are you a troll?

[Roundball_Rock]

Maybe from '95 onwards he was but before that he really wasn't.

Basically agree. I would say he was a superstar from 95' on, an all-star in 94' and a role player prior to 94'.

[light]

From 1994 to 2008 (their last year before becoming the OKC Thunder) they only made 1 Finals in 96. They also only made 1 conference Finals in that 15 year span as well (again, the one time in 96). It gets much weirder, hang tight and enjoy the adventure!

In 94 they lost in the 1st round, as a ONE seed. To an EIGHT seed. The Might LaPhonso Ellis and Reggie Willliams led Denver Nuggets took down the Sad Super Sonics (Payton, Kemp, Shrempf).

In 95 they lost in the 1st round, as a TWO seed. To a SEVEN seed. The Might Nick Van Excel and Vlade Divac led Los Angeles Lakers took down the Sad Super Sonics (Payton, Kemp, Shrempf).

Then they did the following from 1997 to 2008, over the next 11 years:

6x missed the playoffs completely
2x lost in the 1st round
3x lost in the 2nd round

What we know now that we didn't know then: Shawn Kemp is not actually that good.

[Roundball_Rock]

What we know now that we didn't know then: Shawn Kemp is not actually that good.

He has to be a candidate for most overrated player of the 90's. Spectacular dunker but he got exposed badly in Cleveland when he had to be a #1 option.