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    Exclamation Michael Jordan would be shooting fade away 3 pointers in today's nba

    Lebron actually hit a fadeaway 3 pointers against the Wizards, Celtics, and Warriors a couple of years ago. If Jordan was born in 1993 instead of 1963 I can envision Jordan practicing this move, and adding to his offensive arsenal. Shooters today have more range because they practice these type of shots.
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    Default Re: Michael Jordan would be shooting fade away 3 pointers in today's nba

    He is the greatest player of all-time and the greatest mid-range shooter of all time. Had he born under a 3 point shooting culture, he would have become a great 3 point shooter.

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    Love shot a few of those back in Minny in late-clock situations. I don't see why it's a worse shot than someone pulling up from 35 ft.

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    The problem is only with MJ do we automatically assign credit to for things he never did (in his case in 15 seasons in the NBA).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23 View Post
    Shooters today have more range because they practice these type of shots.
    No shit, which is why we can't just say that Jordan's weakness would have been 3PT shooting in this era. He would have been a good 3PT shooter if he practiced more. He made FTs and mid-range jump shots at an elite rate, I think 3s wouldn't have been much of an issue.

    I could see MJ shooting step-back 3s, he had insane quickness. Imagine him running high P&R all game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock View Post
    The problem is only with MJ do we automatically assign credit to for things he never did (in his case in 15 seasons in the NBA).

    False. It's like people arguing that today's athletes would destroy any past era, or all the mythical shit we've seen written about Wilt for decades after his NBA career. It's not like Jordan never had a good season/title run shooting the 3 at some volume, but you're the only one here acting as if that never happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Hawk View Post
    He is the greatest player of all-time and the greatest mid-range shooter of all time. Had he born under a 3 point shooting culture, he would have become a great 3 point shooter.
    Dirk has a season or two where he shot better %'s than MJ's best seasons from midrange, and shot about as high a proportion of shots from 10ft-3pt line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebron23 View Post
    Lebron actually hit a fadeaway 3 pointers against the Wizards, Celtics, and Warriors a couple of years ago. If Jordan was born in 1993 instead of 1963 I can envision Jordan practicing this move, and adding to his offensive arsenal. Shooters today have more range because they practice these type of shots.
    Or he'd still prefer not to shoot threes and he'd be Ben Simmons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by light View Post
    Or he'd still prefer not to shoot threes and he'd be Ben Simmons.
    Wade is another one who rarely took threes, outside of a couple of seasons in the middle of his prime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph_i_el View Post
    Dirk has a season or two where he shot better %'s than MJ's best seasons from midrange, and shot about as high a proportion of shots from 10ft-3pt line.

    We don't have all the data on MJ's mid-range shooting, IIRC, we only got stats from his mid-30s, so peak Jordan likely was as efficient as anyone at a slightly lesser volume. He took mid-range shots at a ridiculous volume in 97-98. Dirk wasn't a 30 ppg high-volume scorer type for most of his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock View Post
    Wade is another one who rarely took threes, outside of a couple of seasons in the middle of his prime.
    Comparing Jordan to Wade or Ben Simmons... MJ took mid-range shots/long 2s at a ridiculous volume when on his last legs and was efficient at them as the best shooters we've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Hawk View Post
    He is the greatest player of all-time and the greatest mid-range shooter of all time. Had he born under a 3 point shooting culture, he would have become a great 3 point shooter.
    He was still playing within a 3 point shooting culture. He entered the three point shooting contest, for crying out loud. That's how big that event was at the time.

    He knew there was significance at the three point line.

    But Jordan put up the worst score (5) in three point shooting contest history and that was that.

    Look, some guys don't really like to shoot - even today in the 3pt shooting culture. Jordan was also afraid of the water, so he had phobias. He preferred not to shoot threes and he may have kept that preference regardless of the era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe View Post
    Comparing Jordan to Wade or Ben Simmons... MJ took mid-range shots/long 2s at a ridiculous volume when on his last legs and was efficient at them as the best shooters we've ever seen.
    How many three's did he take?

    Again, we can't keep going around have double standards. If we are going to credit MJ for fictional threes we have to do the same for Magic, Wilt, Kareem, etc. The most interesting is Bird, who actually was a great three point shooter. Bird was scoring 30 PPG without threes. Maybe Bird would be the GOAT in today's game, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock View Post
    How many three's did he take?

    Again, we can't keep going around have double standards. If we are going to credit MJ for fictional threes we have to do the same for Magic, Wilt, Kareem, etc. The most interesting is Bird, who actually was a great three point shooter. Bird was scoring 30 PPG without threes. Maybe Bird would be the GOAT in today's game, right?
    He only had two seasons of shooting the 3 at a volume behind the normal line, and he shot them at 35.2 & 37.6% (1990, 1993), he shot over 38% from three at a decent volume every post-season of the 91-93 three-peat. Wade never did these things. Ben Simmons doesn't even have a 15-footer. Bird and Magic weren't the volume scorers that Jordan was, but their stats would be better in today's era yes. Bird would heavily benefit from this 3PT-heavy era, as would MJ & Magic.

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    Jordan took 0.9 and 0.7 threes per game his final two seasons, shooting 24.1%. He was old but still a high volume player. 23 PPG on 22 FGA per game in 02', 20 PPG on 19 FGA per game in 03'.

    Bird was a 30 PPG scorer at his peak. That isn't volume scoring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundball_Rock View Post
    Jordan took 0.9 and 0.7 threes per game his final two seasons, shooting 24.1%. He was old but still a high volume player. 23 PPG on 22 FGA per game in 02', 20 PPG on 19 FGA per game in 03'.

    Bird was a 30 PPG scorer at his peak. That isn't volume scoring?
    The argument here is that Jordan could have developed into a decent volume 3PT shooter in an era that favors spacing and creating wide open looks from that distance. We have a couple examples of him shooting the 3 at 2+ a game and doing well at it, as we do with Larry. Both would be shooting more 3s in this era and doing a decent job at it.

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