Michael Jordan would be shooting fade away 3 pointers in today's nba

[Roundball_Rock]

well if he sucks at it than so does bron. Their nearly identical in three point efficiency even though mj barely worked on them

There is a big difference between the two in volume. Look at their 3 point attempts:

Jordan: 1,189 attempts from the NBA line* (1985-1993, 1998, 2002-2003)
LeBron: 5,409 attempts (2004-2020)

LeBron has taken 1,456 in the last four seasons alone, which included a 55 game injury season and a 60 game suspended season this year. His 82 game pace for this year was 521 attempts.

It is okay for MJ to not be #1 at every single aspect of basketball. No one is.

*Jordan took 589 threes from the WNBA line from 1995-1997, including 557 during the 96' and 97' seasons. It appears when he was able to make them (MJ shot 40.4% from the WNBA line) he certainly was willing to take them.

[3ball]

Many people don't realize that MJ's fadeaway was a physically-overpowering shot - the elevation .. the hangtime... and often muscling the defender on the way up, almost forcing the shot in - all done with goat form - no one had better form than Jordan.. these things - the elevation/muscling/form - they combined to allow MJ to make contested mid-range, which allowed high volume

All these things would occur from three - we can see it here - MJ forcing the shot in with goat elevation and form - he would make this his STANDARD

He was the only guy doing this from 2-point range and he'd be the only guy doing it from 3-point range - mj's elevation, hangtime, muscling ability and form would allow similar contested shot-making from 3 that he did from 2

Btw, MJ was already making contested fadeaway game-winners from the shortened line, seen here and here...so he was already making contested fadeaway threes from the shortened line - it's only a matter of time/practice for him to do it from the regular line (he already had fadeaway threes from the regular line - they're seen in this 12 minute video of exclusively bailout threes, seen here, aka end-of-clock threes)

[Bronbron23]

All speculation. He played for 15 seasons and never developed a three point shot, shooting as badly at the end as he did in the 80's.

Well its not like he was trash. He has the same post season 3 point percentage as the best player in the league now.

During his prime in the finals he shot the 3 ball as good as almost anyone. 50%, 42% and 40%. The he didnt take barely any in 91 finals so that 50% is a bit of an outlier but he took just over 4 a game in 92 and 93 finals and shot it at a pretty good efficiency as u can see. Pretty sure at one point he had the record for most threes in a half.

[Bronbron23]

There is a big difference between the two in volume. Look at their 3 point attempts:

Jordan: 1,189 attempts from the NBA line* (1985-1993, 1998, 2002-2003)
LeBron: 5,409 attempts (2004-2020)

LeBron has taken 1,456 in the last four seasons alone, which included a 55 game injury season and a 60 game suspended season this year. His 82 game pace for this year was 521 attempts.

It is okay for MJ to not be #1 at every single aspect of basketball. No one is.

*Jordan took 589 threes from the WNBA line from 1995-1997, including 557 during the 96' and 97' seasons. It appears when he was able to make them (MJ shot 40.4% from the WNBA line) he certainly was willing to take them.

im not saying mj is a great 3 point shooter ill im saying is theres not much difference between him and lebron. And Your point about volume isn't a good one. Bron takes more threes because he has to. He cant score in the half court set like mj so alot of the time he just settles for a three. How many times have we seen bron dribble, dribble, dribble trying to figure out a way to get to the hole in the half court set only to settle for a three. The fact that l3bron only shoots the three around 33% but still takes as many as he does isnt a good argument for him

[dbugz]

MJ will be averaging 40PPG atleast, that for sure

GOAT

[Roundball_Rock]

It is easier to be efficient on much less volume. That is common sense. Jordan fans themselves usually are the first to point this out...if Jordan was asked to take 6-7 threes a game that career 29% from the NBA line would nosedive.

[Bronbron23]

It is easier to be efficient on much less volume. That is common sense. Jordan fans themselves usually are the first to point this out...if Jordan was asked to take 6-7 threes a game that career 29% from the NBA line would nosedive.

Nah man thats true with some guys but not all. Mj was always a high volume shooter and was always around 50% until his mid late 30's. Som3 players are great volume scorers some arnt. Lebron is a good example of someone who isnt comfortable as a volume scorer having to force shots. We saw this in 15 finals when kyrie and love went down and he was forced out of element and had to shoot a high volume of shots. His efficiency plummeted. Mj on the other hand is gonna shot 50% no matter if he takes 15 shots or 35 shots.

[PeroAntic]

It is easier to be efficient on much less volume. That is common sense. Jordan fans themselves usually are the first to point this out...if Jordan was asked to take 6-7 threes a game that career 29% from the NBA line would nosedive.

Wrong. The more you shoot, the better your rhythm becomes.

[Roundball_Rock]

This is news to MJ. If he could take more threes and see his efficiency magically increase on 3, 4, 5 times the volume, why didn't he? Threes are worth 50% more than twos, right? Free points. The ultimate competitor just left free points on the table?

All these armchair generals 25 years later who "know" what the players and coaches then did not "know."

[3ball]

There is a big difference between the two in volume. Look at their 3 point attempts:

Jordan: 1,189 attempts from the NBA line* (1985-1993, 1998, 2002-2003)
LeBron: 5,409 attempts (2004-2020)

LeBron has taken 1,456 in the last four seasons alone, which included a 55 game injury season and a 60 game suspended season this year. His 82 game pace for this year was 521 attempts.

It is okay for MJ to not be #1 at every single aspect of basketball. No one is.

*Jordan took 589 threes from the WNBA line from 1995-1997, including 557 during the 96' and 97' seasons. It appears when he was able to make them (MJ shot 40.4% from the WNBA line) he certainly was willing to take them.

Your volume argument is opposite of the truth because the historical record shows that jordan shot better at higher 3-point volume, and always shot well when he took over 1.5 attempts

He had less than 1.5 attempts every year except 90' and 93' when he had 3 attempts at 38% and 35%.

And he shot 35.2% on 2.1 attempts in 85-93' Playoffs, including the 93' run at a combined efficiency/volume that was better than 19' Kawhi.

Finally, he shot 40% when he took 4+ attempts in regular season games from 85-93'

So the lack of getting in a rhythm (lack of volume) helps his case.. the sign of a good shooter is better efficiency at high volume (jordan), versus lower efficiency at high volume (LeBrick)

[Roundball_Rock]

So you guys are saying MJ was an idiot? That he could have easily scored a lot more by taking 3's but couldn't figure it out like people on the internet 30 years later?

It is funny, he sure took a lot of 3's with the shortened line...

Then again according to you all, MJ>Bird as a 3 point shooter.

[PeroAntic]

So you guys are saying MJ was an idiot? That he could have easily scored a lot more by taking 3's but couldn't figure it out like people on the internet 30 years later?

He had a different game. He just wasn't bothered to practice the 3pt shot. Back then the three ball wasn't valued as much as it is today, so because he did everything else at the highest possible level, he didn't really need threes. I don't know why is it so hard to understand.

[Bronbron23]

This is news to MJ. If he could take more threes and see his efficiency magically increase on 3, 4, 5 times the volume, why didn't he? Threes are worth 50% more than twos, right? Free points. The ultimate competitor just left free points on the table?

All these armchair generals 25 years later who "know" what the players and coaches then did not "know."

Well i never said it would increase i just said it be the same and thats why he didn't shoot alot of them. 3's aren't always better than twos so he stuck to his strengths.

[Bronbron23]

So you guys are saying MJ was an idiot? That he could have easily scored a lot more by taking 3's but couldn't figure it out like people on the internet 30 years later?

It is funny, he sure took a lot of 3's with the shortened line...

Then again according to you all, MJ>Bird as a 3 point shooter.

Nah he was smart. He took as many as he should of for someone with his 3ball efficiency which is more i can say for another mediocre long ball great and who in the hell said mj was a better 3 point shooter than bird.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

3 pages in and STILL no evidence Jordan "didn't develop" a three point shot.

Narratives are good comedy. But haters got to understand FACTS are real