Were Nazis Right Wing Fascists or Left Wing Socialists? (POLL)

[Overdrive]

germany back then had extensive social services for its people... in regards to "welfare" they believed in providing it more than current right wing USA politcians do.

Doesn't make them socialist in the marxist sense.

[Long Duck Dong]

Everyone is free to do what they want (right wing) as long as it serve the nation (collectivist). The problem comes when nationhood is determined by a party, and they determine that the jews did not serve the nation.

The very foundation of Marxism and socialism as we know it centers around collectivism.

[iamgine]

The very foundation of Marxism and socialism as we know it centers around collectivism.

Sure but it would be incorrect to equate them because they're different ideas.

[Overdrive]

The very foundation of Marxism and socialism as we know it centers around collectivism.

Yes, but origins of Marx, Engels et al don't allow for hierachy. The NS regime was the most diagonal regime we've seen to date.

[CelticBaller]

People who think racist can’t be socialist or left wing clearly have no idea what they’re talking about

The soviets and mao’s China are the definition of communism and they were racist as ****.

Nazis were socialist. Just as the commies were socialist

[RRR3]

People who think racist can’t be socialist or left wing clearly have no idea what they’re talking about

The soviets and mao’s China are the definition of communism and they were racist as ****.

Nazis were socialist. Just as the commies were socialist

Communists aren’t socialists

You can own private property under a socialist society.

[brownmamba00]

Systematically killing people because of their ethnicity/nationality/religion is textbook fascism.

[brownmamba00]

Anyone that thinks the nazis were socialists because of the name of Hitler's political party has the brain the size of a peanut.

His idea of socialism revolved around ethnicity (the so called aryan race). Whenever socialism revolves around ethnicity or race it becomes fascism.

[Overdrive]

People who think racist can’t be socialist or left wing clearly have no idea what they’re talking about

The soviets and mao’s China are the definition of communism and they were racist as ****.

Nazis were socialist. Just as the commies were socialist

Nobody says leftwing radicalism can't be racist. Infact most is. Doesn't make the Nazis leftists. Left can be economical, sociological or form of hierachy.

The Nazis were sociological and hierachic rightwingers with hints of leftwing economy.

The racism is the cherry on the sunday. You can be a fascist with gassing jews and retards.

[brownmamba00]

The name of the party was an illusion or trap just to bring in more voters from within the german working class.

Whenever they seized power they closed down all the syndicates killed all of the socialists/communists and cancelled all the rights to labour strike actions.

When I see these rednecks act like the nazis were some sort of commie entity I just laugh my balls off.

[RRR3]

Brownmamba00 spitting facts.

[kabar]

Thus we can see the two great differences between races: Aryanism means ethical perception of work and that which we today so often hear – socialism, community spirit, common good before own good. Jewry means egoistic attitude to work and thereby mammonism and materialism, the opposite of socialism. (Hear, hear) And due to these traits, which he cannot ‘overstep’ as they are in his blood and, as he himself admits, in these traits alone lays the necessity for the Jew to behave unconditionally as a destroyer of states. He cannot do otherwise, whether he wants to or not. And thereby he is unable to create his own state because it requires a lot of social sense. He is only able to live as a parasite in the states of others. He lives as a race amongst other races, in a state within others states. And we can see very precisely that when a race does not possess certain traits which must be hereditary, it not only cannot create a state but must act as a destroyer, no matter if a given individual is good or evil.

The first three principles were clear, and they are inseparable from each other. Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one’s fellow man’s sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism. (Loud applause)

To be nationalist does not mean for us to belong to one party or another, but to show with every action that one benefits the people; it means love for all the people without exception. From this point of view we will realize that it is necessary to preserve the most precious thing a people has, the sum of all active creative powers of its workers, to keep it healthy in body and soul.(Cheers) And this view of nationalism compels us to immediately form a front against its opposite, the Semitic conception of the idea of people (Volk), and especially against the Semitic concept of work. Since we are socialists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism. (Lively bravo!)

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Yeah totally just an economic policy.

[brownmamba00]

Hitler called his political party a liberal party.

North Korea in comparison call themselves the democratic people's republic of North Korea. Doesn't mean they are democratic nor republican.

Socialism and the workers movement was a big thing in the 1900s they just used these terms to gain followers.

Hitler told his people socialism does not reject private property which is pretty much the base of extreme left wing ideals.

[RRR3]

Hitler called his political party a liberal party.

North Korea in comparison call themselves the democratic people's republic of North Korea. Doesn't mean they are democratic nor republican.

Socialism and the workers movement was a big thing in the 1900s they just used these terms to gain followers.

Hitler told his people socialism does not reject private property which is pretty much the base of extreme left wing ideals.

You can have private property under socialist systems. Communism is different.

[bladefd]

People who think racist can’t be socialist or left wing clearly have no idea what they’re talking about

The soviets and mao’s China are the definition of communism and they were racist as ****.

Nazis were socialist. Just as the commies were socialist

The Commies in USSR were enemies of Hitler. Nazis hated the commies. He was an anti-Marxist and anti-Communist since he was young - he even talked about it in Mein Kampf. That same person cannot be a socialist. In fact, he goes as far as to say that Marxism is his ultimate enemy and pledging to destroy it.