Is there an argument for Pippen being better than Lebron?

[BigShotBob]

6 rings

Better defender (by far)

All-around greatness

What else is he missing?

Discuss.

[ShawkFactory]

6 rings

Better defender (by far)

All-around greatness

What else is he missing?

Discuss.

He’s missing Lebron’s ability as a basketball player.

[Lebron23]

He’s missing Lebron’s ability as a basketball player.

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[warriorfan]

6 rings

Better defender (by far)

All-around greatness

What else is he missing?

Discuss.

Better defender

Equal in terms of quitting on team

Bigger package

Scottie gets the selection

[Jordan96]

Better defender

Equal in terms of quitting on team

Bigger package

Scottie gets the selection

So Pippen > Curry?

[light]

6 rings

Better defender (by far)

All-around greatness

What else is he missing?

Discuss.

Pippen actually wasn't a better defender.

I dont know where you got that, but at his peak LeBron was hyper Pippen on the defensive end - he was doing everything Pippen was doing from a defensive standpoint plus more because he's much bigger, stronger, faster. In other words he had greater defensive range - a better ability to defend big power forwards and centers while still locking up the quickest PGs.

LeBron is also a better rim protector. He can defend the hoop like a shot blocking big as the last line of defense. Pippen didnt do that.

Remember LeBron is 2 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier, so he was/is a much better post defender in general.

Bron was also a more intimidating defender, imo. Him moving on to a problem player was usually enough to shake that players confidence.

Another thing about LeBron's defense that goes unappreciated is that he can defend at a high level without fouling. He does that better than anyone in history.

LeBron is also a better all around player obviously. He's better than Pippen at literally everything except for steals, but LeBron was not as much of a gambler, which isnt a bad thing.

[Run DLC]

LMAO. That’s my argument.

[Axe]

30k points

6911 po points

4402 tos

3 fmvps

16x all-star selections

#1 leader in each stat category during a finals

etc

The ucm

[FKAri]

That he was able to carry someone as terrible as MJ to rings. Lebron's never had to carry that kind of load. I think that's the angle of approach for the pro-Pippen side in this argument.

[Elosha]

Pippen actually wasn't a better defender.

I dont know where you got that, but at his peak LeBron was hyper Pippen on the defensive end - he was doing everything Pippen was doing from a defensive standpoint plus more because he's much bigger, stronger, faster. In other words he had greater defensive range - a better ability to defend big power forwards and centers while still locking up the quickest PGs.

LeBron is also a better rim protector. He can defend the hoop like a shot blocking big as the last line of defense. Pippen didnt do that.

Remember LeBron is 2 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier, so he was/is a much better post defender in general.

Bron was also a more intimidating defender, imo. Him moving on to a problem player was usually enough to shake that players confidence.

Another thing about LeBron's defense that goes unappreciated is that he can defend at a high level without fouling. He does that better than anyone in history.

LeBron is also a better all around player obviously. He's better than Pippen at literally everything except for steals, but LeBron was not as much of a gambler, which isnt a bad thing.

While I agree that LeBron is clearly a better basketball player, you are underestimating Pippen's ability and his athleticism. Pippen was basically as athletic as LeBron. He was incredibly fast in the open court in his prime, people don't realize just how fast he was. Plus he could jump like LeBron off one foot and was even a better jumper than LeBron off 2 feet. Picking Pippen was actually quite similar to Jordan in that he was in excellent 2 foot and 1 foot jumper. And he had incredibly long arms, longer than either Jordan or LeBron's arms. even though he was listed at 6' 7", he was clearly at least a couple inches taller than Jordan . Although he was lighter than LeBron he was certainly no slouch when it came to strength. Besides, even with all of LeBron's weight and power, he is much more of a finesse player, just like Pippen was.

[ELITEpower23]

LeBron @6911 po points

Has Pippen caught up yet?

[Real14]

Definitely a better defender and more heart.

[Smook A.]

The only thing Pippen has over LeBron are his 6 rings and defense. That's literally it. LeBron's superior in every other way

[Axe]

The only thing Pippen has over LeBron are his 6 rings and defense. That's literally it. LeBron's superior in every other way

Pippen played for a team that's not self-oriented, something that went on to win multiple championships in a 'watered-down' era.

[Round Mound]

Nope. Pippen was a better defeder but everything else Lebron is better at.