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Re: James Harden is already a top 5 shooting guard in nba history
Originally Posted by Doranku
Kobe '08: 30/6/6 on 48% - 113 ORtg
Harden '14: 27/5/6 on 38% - 112 ORtg
huh.. wonder how the math works for that one.
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Re: James Harden is already a top 5 shooting guard in nba history
Originally Posted by Lebron23
Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade and Jerry West are the only players that's better than him.
MJ, Kobe, West are clearly better. Wade, Harden, Drexler, Iverson are all in a tier behind them for 4-7. I put Wade 4th, Harden 5th. He already has accomplished more than Drexler did in his career. This isn't a knock on Drexler but a testament to how great Harden is himself.
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Re: James Harden is already a top 5 shooting guard in nba history
Originally Posted by Turbo Slayer
Playoff ORTG (min 2 playoff series b/c I don't want any flukes.)
Harden: 114
Wade: 109
Kobe: 113
They are strikingly similiar in playoff ORTG. (min 2 playoff series)
Having a better ORTG doesn't necessarily mean better scorer or player. I just wanted to point this out. I'm not claiming anything. Just for your info.
Comparing individual ORTG in the post-season without adjusting for opponent defensive quality doesn't make much sense.
Kobe from 01-10 had a 111 ORTG. The average team he played over that stretch had a 101 DRTG, which gives him a relative ORTG of +10.
I'm fairly sure that number tops what Harden or Wade have done over their post-season primes.
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Re: James Harden is already a top 5 shooting guard in nba history
harden is a PURE HOG BALL player = I DO NOT LIKE HIM.
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