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    Default 98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebron..

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    2006 - 55
    2007 - 58
    2008 - 21
    2009 - 10
    2010 - 16
    2011 - 43 (0 in Finals)
    2012 - 46
    2013 - 37
    2014 - 24
    2015 - 40
    2016 - 18 (kyrie 20)
    2017 - 18
    2018 - 47

    1997 - 55 (Pippen 18.. Stockton 36)
    1998 - 76 (Pippen 24.. Stockton 28)


    So lebron played best in 06' and 07' when there was no expectations, and then 2018 when he had peak experience.. but he lost the so-called "carry-jobs" in 06' and 07', while MJ won bigger carry jobs

    Btw, MJ had 30 clutch points in the 98' Finals and 8 for Pippen (behind Stockton, Russell and Longley)... And MJ had 23 clutch points in 1997 Finals while Pippen had 4 (behind Stockton, Hornacek, Morris and Kukoc)... ,
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    Default Re: 98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebr

    To add to this MJ had clutch offense AND clutch defense (goat 2-way player)

    I remember the strip on Malone as much as the last shot.

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    Default Re: 98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebr

    All that and still numero dos


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    Default Re: 98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebr

    How many rebounds/assists?

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    Default Re: 98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebr

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan96 View Post
    How many rebounds/assists?
    when a team needs a bucket, rebounding and assists mean nothing... And they also don't dictate momentum or control like scoring

    Scoring is the cheat code.. the shortcut and direct way to increase the scoreboard.. otoh, you can get 10 straight rebounds and not add to the scoreboard at all..

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    Default Re: 98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebr

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    when a team needs a bucket, rebounding and assists mean nothing... And they also don't dictate momentum or control like scoring

    Scoring is the cheat code.. the shortcut and direct way to increase the scoreboard.. otoh, you can get 10 straight rebounds and not add to the scoreboard at all..
    The only way to get a rebound is if someone misses a shot, so if you get 10 straight rebounds the other team probably missed 10 straight shots, that means you played great defense


    LeBron getting double the rebounds of MJ means LeBron played twice the defense MJ did, and forced the opposition to miss more shots

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    Default Re: 98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebr

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    when a team needs a bucket, rebounding and assists mean nothing... And they also don't dictate momentum or control like scoring

    Scoring is the cheat code.. the shortcut and direct way to increase the scoreboard.. otoh, you can get 10 straight rebounds and not add to the scoreboard at all..
    Damn. On top of that you have to score more points then the other team in order to win (something LeBron wasn’t good at)

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    Default Re: 98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebr

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan96 View Post
    The only way to get a rebound is if someone misses a shot, so if you get 10 straight rebounds the other team probably missed 10 straight shots, that means you played great defense


    LeBron getting double the rebounds of MJ means LeBron played twice the defense MJ did, and forced the opposition to miss more shots
    Bingo

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    Default Re: 98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebr

    Quote Originally Posted by ELITEpower23 View Post
    Bingo
    Why use two dups to mock him?

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    Default Re: 98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebr

    If you consider LeBron's assist points created he had far more clutch points.

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    Default Re: 98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebr

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan96 View Post
    How many rebounds/assists?
    Jordan, who's shorter and 70 lbs lighter is a better offensive rebounder in the regular season AND the post-season than LBJ


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    Default Re: 98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebr

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan96 View Post
    The only way to get a rebound is if someone misses a shot, so if you get 10 straight rebounds the other team probably missed 10 straight shots, that means you played great defense


    LeBron getting double the rebounds of MJ means LeBron played twice the defense MJ did, and forced the opposition to miss more shots
    False. Lebron plays in a different era. Jordan also averaged more offensive rebounds than Lebron in an era where he had to beat 7-footers to the ball. It's a lot easier to clock in double-digit rebounds when teams are playing short line-ups and shooting a lot of 3s and playing at a higher pace, there are a lot more rebounding opportunities for Lebron as a result. Guys like Luka Doncic are averaging 9 rebounds a game, does anyone even have Luka as an average defensive player?

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    Default Re: 98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebr

    What about some other great players? Why is it always comparative to LeBron when you say they aren't even close?

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    Default Re: 98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebr

    Quote Originally Posted by Wally450 View Post
    What about some other great players? Why is it always comparative to LeBron when you say they aren't even close?
    Because LeBron is the best player of this generation and we are exploiting that gap MJ has over him

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    Default Re: 98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebr

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball View Post
    when a team needs a bucket, rebounding and assists mean nothing... And they also don't dictate momentum or control like scoring

    Scoring is the cheat code.. the shortcut and direct way to increase the scoreboard.. otoh, you can get 10 straight rebounds and not add to the scoreboard at all..
    So Chris Bosh’s offensive rebound and assist to Ray Allen mean nothing?

    What about Jordan passing it to Kerr, or Kobe’s alley-opp pass to Shaq?

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