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    Default You can either choose to believe this or not... but Trump is not establishment

    and that is the by far and away biggest reason that he gets so much flak from the media and resistance from the politicians. It's not the only reason, obviously, his leadership style has holes in it and he's rather thin skinned. We all know this... he's far from an ideal president.

    However, and this is the part you either get to choose to believe or not...

    I spoke to someone recently that has voted for both sides of the aisle that has worked in the past with a particular state's attorney general for years... they also worked with James Comey for years... and they confirmed to me, in no uncertain words, that the shadow government is an absolute real thing. They said that the majority of what is seen on TV and in the papers coming out of Washington DC via the politicians is nothing but scenery for the public and that the people truly pulling the strings are the ones that are in these multi decade long positions that are't elected.

    Not that I didn't already believe this... I did... it was just beyond cool to be able to have a lengthy conversation with someone who actually was an insider at one time and to have the confirmation.

    Basically, love him or hate him, Trump isn't bought and paid for and this is why he faces such incredible resistance in Washington DC and in the media... I mean, his personal leadership style aside. He doesn't really play ball, he marches to the beat of his own drummer, as he obviously self funded his entire campaign.

    Now, go back to sleep for those of you that don't believe me. This is all made up and just a dream.

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    Default Re: You can either choose to believe this or not... but Trump is not establishment

    "I'm going to drain the swamp!"

    - Gives massive tax breaks to big businesses/fortune 500 companies.


    Lol'd hard.

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    Default Re: You can either choose to believe this or not... but Trump is not establishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin View Post
    "I'm going to drain the swamp!"

    - Gives massive tax breaks to big businesses/fortune 500 companies.


    Lol'd hard.
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    Believing Trump is anti establishment is some real smooth brain shit.


    Why is he anti establishment? Because of his twitter? . It’s about policy.

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    Default Re: You can either choose to believe this or not... but Trump is not establishment

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    Believing Trump is anti establishment is some real smooth brain shit.
    Yep, the guy that has not taken us into any new wars when all of the other presidents have is just another part of the establishment. Right.

    Holy shit you're dumb.

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    Default Re: You can either choose to believe this or not... but Trump is not establishment

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
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    Believing Trump is anti establishment is some real smooth brain shit.


    Why is he anti establishment? Because of his twitter? . It’s about policy.
    you're making OP's point.

    trump had no choice but to pass that because that is what the powers to be, behind the scenes wanted.

    and it did boost the economy which is his only real calling card.

    There's NEVER been a president that pushed back as hard as trump.

    Against democrats.

    Against republicans.

    Against China.

    Against a biased and out of control media.

    Despite being a huge dbag, the guy is a shining star of perserverence and fight.

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    Default Re: You can either choose to believe this or not... but Trump is not establishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Shogon View Post
    Yep, the guy that has not taken us into any new wars when all of the other presidents have is just another part of the establishment. Right.

    Holy shit you're dumb.
    Literally had a chance to end the fighting in Yemen (it was backed for Congress) and said no.




    Interdasting.


    Increased drone strikes (quite an accomplishment given how much Obama used them).



    Interdasting.





    You don’t want to even get into the economic stuff

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    Default Re: You can either choose to believe this or not... but Trump is not establishment

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    you're making OP's point.

    trump had no choice but to pass that because that is what the powers to be, behind the scenes wanted.

    and it did boost the economy which is his only real calling card.

    There's NEVER been a president that pushed back as hard as trump.

    Against democrats.

    Against republicans.

    Against China.

    Against a biased and out of control media.

    Despite being a huge dbag, the guy is a shining star of perserverence and fight.
    Literally heard the same thing about Obama (in fact I was guilty of doing it myself). Wahhhh it’s the meany pants congress’s fault, he’s trying his best you guys

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    Default Re: You can either choose to believe this or not... but Trump is not establishment

    So the media (left activists) were up in arms about impeaching trump for Russian collusion, yet when it's proven that Obama and pals lied under oath about all the Russian info it's dead silence?

    The media is out of control

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    Default Re: You can either choose to believe this or not... but Trump is not establishment

    Lmao at the shadow government being some unified thing. It has different factions like everything else. The mainstream media got him elected. Right now with everyone else being censored and deplatformed it proves that the media loves him. If they didn’t he would have been censored, deplatformed, blacked out and pushed away. That’s how they deal with people who are really antiestablishment. Instead they gave him more airtime then everyone and created this crazy narrative. Y’all are dumb as hell. Lol.

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    Default Re: You can either choose to believe this or not... but Trump is not establishment

    Dude is establishment as all f*ck. All the shit other presidents do to serve the real powers in this country, he does willingly and gladly.

    That Americans continue to think he’s some maverick anti-establishment guy is pretty lols.

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    Default Re: You can either choose to believe this or not... but Trump is not establishment

    Problem is low IQs like hitleRRR3 dont understand that they dont have to embrace Trump for HIS direction. They should be embracing him simply as a step AWAY from the establishment.

    If some people want to pivot again in 2024 after Trump thats fine. You can support him against the establishment now and still disagree with any specific policies now or later.

    Soycuck is just too scared tho. If more Bernie Bros begin to at least accept that Trump has value as an anti establishment guy, Soycuck will jump on it too.

    There just arent enough people in his group moving yet, for him to have the confidence to move.

    He needs a critical mass and then he’ll follow.

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    Default Re: You can either choose to believe this or not... but Trump is not establishment

    Where does the narrative that he’s antiestablishment come from? The media. Lol.

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    Default Re: You can either choose to believe this or not... but Trump is not establishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Norcaliblunt View Post
    Where does the narrative that he’s antiestablishment come from? The media. Lol.
    Hmm..

    Perhaps because the media IS establishment. Which they frame as a positive thing.

    The media calls Trump anti establishment as a means to detract from him. The media doesnt want anti establishment leaders in charge.

    It's up to you to decide if the media has your best interest in mind with that narrative.


    If you're smart enough.

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    Default Re: You can either choose to believe this or not... but Trump is not establishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Derka View Post
    Dude is establishment as all f*ck. All the shit other presidents do to serve the real powers in this country, he does willingly and gladly.

    That Americans continue to think he’s some maverick anti-establishment guy is pretty lols.

    This gentleman happens not to be smart enough.

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