If we care about lives, why not prohibit alcohol and smoking and require weight limit

[n00bie]

None of this is about caring about lives. It is about keeping this up long enough to push for mail-in ballots and to keep Biden locked safely in his basement so he does not have to get on a stage to debate as well as keeping his public speaking to a bare minimum so he an keep his large foot out of his mouth.

So you're saying Trump reopened the country on purpose to spread the virus?

Or Trump told everyone not to wear a mask so that the virus will spread faster? Sorry I dont understand your logic.

[Norcaliblunt]

OP if you are purchasing and using government mandated pasteurized products then you are supporting the system that is shutting us down and that makes you a hypocrite.

[hiphopanonymous]

Drunk drivers kill a lot of innocent people per year and endanger countless others. Ban alcohol.

Lung cancer isn’t contagious yet second hand smoke causes it. Ban smoking.

Fat people are in a way contagious. The more that fatasses become prevalent, the less ostracized they feel, the more they become the new norm. Spreading their fatness throughout our society.

Drunk driving is already illegal in every single State. Smoking in every type of public place is already illegal in most States and is probably on the way in the few holding out - and most of the few holding out have some restrictions of some sort.

Society is more lenient on activities that endanger strictly yourself with reckless behavior. But (thankfully), if your reckless behavior jeopardizes the well being or lives of others that are not choosing to be as reckless as you, it's likely already been made illegal or a good candidate to become that way.

This is a Sesame Street level topic that a 6 year old would understand. Think back to kindergarten. You KNEW in kindergarten it may be weird to randomly punch yourself but in most cases it was not gonna run you to the principals office. You KNEW it was not ok to randomly punch someone else. - now follow that logic to spreading illness or running someone over because you intoxicated yourself. We as society basically try to treat offenses to others the same way for the same reasons.

[highwhey]

Drunk driving is already illegal in every single State. Smoking in every type of public place is already illegal in most States and is probably on the way in the few holding out - and most of the few holding out have some restrictions of some sort.

Society is more lenient on activities that endanger strictly yourself with reckless behavior. But (thankfully), if your reckless behavior jeopardizes the well being or lives of others that are not choosing to be as reckless as you, it's likely already been made illegal or a good candidate to become that way.

This is a Sesame Street level topic that a 6 year old would understand. Think back to kindergarten. You KNEW in kindergarten it may be weird to randomly punch yourself but in most cases it was not gonna run you to the principals office. You KNEW it was not ok to randomly punch someone else. - now follow that logic to spreading illness or running someone over because you intoxicated yourself. We as society basically try to treat offenses to others the same way for the same reasons.

this is ISH. we have mentally ill individuals. OP has a legitimate mental illness.

[Cleverness]

Goal posts being moved again.

Glad you've seen the light.

Goal posts haven't just been moved; they were REMOVED in APRIL when we abandoned our goal of not overwhelming hospitals to doing anything to save all lives from COVID (even when hardly of it was backed by science and data).

Because lung cancer, liver disease and diabetes or coronary artery disease aren't contagious.

Endangering yourself with diseases that aren't contagious is something society has experimented with and changed its views on many times as to where to draw the line on these issues (sin taxes, prohibition, etc).

But it's actually an entirely different topic than walking around with a disease that spreads to other people which may not harm or kill you but may harm or kill them and visa versa.

You always try to act so smart. You should have known this one before you even made the thread.

Our goal is to not overwhelm the hospitals, not to save as many lives as possible from COVID.

We knew the hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed back in April. We should have been massively opening up in April while protecting our elderly in care homes (0.42% of the population) which account for >50% of the deaths.