The United States needs High-Speed Rail

[Stanley Kobrick]

The money will be used for building Mexico's wall to keep Covid Americans out

[Phong]

The first section from San Fernando to Fresno was nearly complete until Trump pulled funding to satisfy his Big Oil buddies


Shame, his admin single handedly setting us back into medieval times of technology

What a lie. That section was nowhere near completion and has now been canceled by Newsom because it was going nowhere. As if $1 billion was putting the whole project in jeopardy.

The funding that was pulled out was originally authorized by the Obama administration under the condition that it would be completed by 2018. It was an incentive to develop the economy of the Central Valley.

They didn't build shit, so the funding was pulled back.

[Cleverness]

Uhh, I always thought you were the dumb alter ego of Fultz, but I can no longer tell. If you're trolling, well done.

The one-party state of California started its High Speed Rail Project in 2008 - long before Trump.

It was supposed to be a $9.95 billion bond that would be repaid by private investors. It's now a $100B boondoggle with completion ETA of 2033.

But it's Trump's fault because he didn't want another ~$1 billion of taxpayer dollars into more waste?

^

btw no problem with presidents golfing. It's much less dangerous than destructive national policies. That government is best which governs least.

[Hawker]

funny joke

It's only bad in LA. Road trip I made in cali years ago was a breeze unless I drove through LA.

[LAmbruh]

> traffic is great in California
> i drove through once
> it's only bad in LA








keep the shit takes coming

[Cleverness]

It's only bad in LA. Road trip I made in cali years ago was a breeze unless I drove through LA.

ehh, it's pretty bad in CA cities during rush hours. bay area is about as bad as LA. but yeah, if you're doing a road trip there's a lot of rural CA with no traffic

[LAmbruh]

wow






meanwhile

[Cleverness]

Bruh,

Say it with me now

California started its High Speed Rail Project in 2008 - long before Trump.

It was supposed to be a $9.95 billion bond that would be repaid by private investors.

It's now a $100 billion boondoggle with completion ETA of 2033.

Trump's decision to not waste yet another ~$1 billion of taxpayer dollars is not the problem.

[LAmbruh]

The first section from San Fernando to Fresno was nearly complete until Trump pulled funding to satisfy his Big Oil buddies


Shame, his admin single handedly setting us back into medieval times of technology

....

[bladefd]

You just explained the problem with government funded infrastructure. Good job. The perfect world of private companies always acting ethically and politicians staying in power forever doesn't exist.

If the investment made sense, the private sector would fund it.

Private sector will not fund anything that does not instantly boost up their bottom line. They also cannot possibly be able to raise sums in the tens of billions like nations and states can. If you look around the world, you will not find privately owned high speed rails. Not even AMTRAK can raise the funds for a high-speed rail without major assistance from government/tax money.

[Cleverness]

Private sector will not fund anything that does not instantly boost up their bottom line. They also cannot possibly be able to raise sums in the tens of billions like nations and states can. If you look around the world, you will not find privately owned high speed rails. Not even AMTRAK can raise the funds for a high-speed rail without major assistance from government/tax money.

Are there examples of the private sector funding things that do not instantly boost bottom line?

Are you sure it would cost tens of billions to build a train from SF to LA?

Has anyone stopped and asked if it's a good idea to build a 100 billion dollar choo-choo train from SF to LA with an estimated completion date of 2033?

[coin24]

Lol the public transport in the states is worse than third world countries, you guys are so far behind. LA traffic is a disgrace.
The Amtrak on the east coast is ok, but you should have rail links and especially high speed between cities all over the country like Japan. There's no reason LA can't set up rail and metro like Tokyo..

Maybe if you didn't have 400 levels of government bending over to corporations all day there.. actually never mind.. freedom etc etc

[Cleverness]

Lol the public transport in the states is worse than third world countries, you guys are so far behind. LA traffic is a disgrace.
The Amtrak on the east coast is ok, but you should have rail links and especially high speed between cities all over the country like Japan. There's no reason LA can't set up rail and metro like Tokyo..

Maybe if you didn't have 400 levels of government bending over to corporations all day there.. actually never mind.. freedom etc etc

Agreed with some of this, but cities all over the country like Japan? We have 2.6x the population, but 26x the size of Japan in area. LA, yeah, but like you said - we have 400 levels of government / unions / environmentalists / etc that make it difficult and expensive. And our gov't seems to only get bigger.

[Uncle Drew]

3rd world country.

[pastis]

Im frequently using high speed trains in germany and france. The route Nuremberg (bavaria) to Cologne (west germany) via Würzburg and Frankfurt in just 3 1/2 h with the ICE train. From Cologne to Brussels via Aachen and Lüttich in 1 1/2 h. Or Cologne to Paris in 3 h 45 min via Brussels. both with the Thalys train.

Saying that, Germany has one of the densest transportation networks. Even small cities are connected to the railway system. We have the ICE as a high speed train who connects just big cities ( 100.000 and above) And then many regional train networks who are connecting small and medium and big cities.