Durant > LeBron As A Scorer?

[Phoenix]

Numbers don't lie

LeBron is the GOAT scorer when you combine volume & efficiency

Lebron 27.0 61% career TS, 18.7 shots
Durant 27.1 59% career TS, 19.6 shots

I agree with that assessment.

[KD7]

Jordan averaged more points per game. In his Bulls years he averaged about 31.4 points. 10 scoring titles to Lebron's 1 scoring title. And Jordan more All NBA defense teams.

Efficiency?

[Axe]

Why are you noisy af right now, manny? Your main dup just got banned?

Lmfao

[Bronbron23]

Efficiency?

Lebron isnt an efficient volume shooter. Hes very good at picking his spots throughout the game and letting the game come to him. With the ball in his hands as much as it is he still scores alot of points this way. When force to be a volume shooter though his efficiency drops. We saw this in 15 finals when he was forced to shoot 30 plus shots a game because kyrie and love were out. He had to force up shots which isnt in his comfort zone as he himself admitted that series.

Mj on the other hand is still very efficient as a volume shooter.

[KD7]

Lebron isnt an efficient volume shooter. Hes very good at picking his spots throughout the game and letting the game come to him. With the ball in his hands as much as it is he still scores alot of points this way. When force to be a volume shooter though his efficiency drops. We saw this in 15 finals when he was forced to shoot 30 plus shots a game because kyrie and love were out. He had to force up shots which isnt in his comfort zone as he himself admitted that series.

Mj on the other hand is still very efficient as a volume shooter.

LeBrons efficiency in the 2015 finals was due to him playing with absolutely zero spacing and being forced to basically do everything on the court as his second option was Matthew Dellavadova

In the 2018 playoffs LeBron averaged 34ppg off 62% True shooting

He also averaged 35 off 62% True shooting in the 09 playoffs

MJ never replicated the combined volume & efficiency of peak LeBron. He had the volume but fell short in efficiency

[Shooter]

Lebron isnt an efficient volume shooter. Hes very good at picking his spots throughout the game and letting the game come to him. With the ball in his hands as much as it is he still scores alot of points this way. When force to be a volume shooter though his efficiency drops. We saw this in 15 finals when he was forced to shoot 30 plus shots a game because kyrie and love were out. He had to force up shots which isnt in his comfort zone as he himself admitted that series.

Mj on the other hand is still very efficient as a volume shooter.

This guy forgot all about 2012, 2016, 2017, 2018

In 2018 alone LeBron crushed any myth you could imagine.

#1 all time PER for Finals playoff run (32.2)

Is literally as efficient as can be, while averaging what, 34 on 54% or something? Let me known when Fraudon ever did that.

NEXT

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Before joining GSW and getting the open looks he benefited on, Durant averaged 29 on 46%FG and 56%TS in the playoffs. For comparison sake, Lebron drops a career 29 on 49%FG and 58%TS in the playoffs.

Durant is definitely a better shooter and likely the better half-court scorer. Lebron is obviously the better finisher and better in transition. They're few and far between now but against physical defenses, I would probably take Lebron. Generally those teams are in the playoffs too.

[tpols]

Before joining GSW and getting the open looks he benefited on, Durant averaged 29 on 46%FG and 56%TS in the playoffs. For comparison sake, Lebron drops a career 29 on 49%FG and 58%TS in the playoffs.

Durant is definitely a better shooter and likely the better half-court scorer. Lebron is obviously the better finisher and better in transition. They're few and far between now but against physical defenses, I would probably take Lebron. Generally those teams are in the playoffs too.

also gotta consider durant playing in the west... every round he was seeing some juggernaut. mavs, warriors, spurs over and over... while lebron could coast and pad on cream puff teams out east.

[Lebron23]

also gotta consider durant playing in the west... every round he was seeing some juggernaut. mavs, warriors, spurs over and over... while lebron could coast and pad on cream puff teams out east.

Your boy kobe put up terrible efficiency against those cream puff teams in the NBA Finals.

[Roundball_Rock]

also gotta consider durant playing in the west... every round he was seeing some juggernaut. mavs, warriors, spurs over and over... while lebron could coast and pad on cream puff teams out east.

You do realize the tougher defenses tend to be out in the EC? That has been the case forever.

Glad to see you care about quality of defenses on Sunday. This is your third or fourth shift in a week or so. So back to not mattering bu Tuesday or will it be Wednesday?

[Roundball_Rock]

Your boy kobe put up terrible efficiency against those cream puff teams in the NBA Finals.

We can compare their conference finals opponents for a quick comparison of their opposing defenses. If they didn't make the conference finals, let's use their highest series that year.

2007: Pistons 7th
2008: Celtics 1st (ECSF)
2009: Magic 1st
2010: Celtics 5th (ECSF), Lakers 4th (1st round)
2011: Bulls 1st, Mavs 8th
2012: Celtics 1st, Spurs 10th
2013: Pacers 1st, Grizzlies 2nd (WCSF)
2014: Pacers 1st, Spurs 3rd
2015: Hawks 6th, N/A (OKC missed playoffs)
2016: Raptors 11th, Warriors 5th
2017: Celtics 13th, Spurs 1st (Kawhi played only 24 minutes, though)
2018: Celtics 1st, Rockets 6th
2019: N/A (LA missed PO), Blazers 16th

LeBron faces 7 #1 defenses, KD does it once and even there on paper only as their defensive anchor played only 24 minutes in the series. "Cream puff" defenses, doe.

[KD7]

also gotta consider durant playing in the west... every round he was seeing some juggernaut. mavs, warriors, spurs over and over... while lebron could coast and pad on cream puff teams out east.

And none of those compare to the grueling defenses that LeBron had to go through in the East

06 & 07 Pistons
08-12 Celtics
11 & 12 Bulls
13 & 14 Pacers

[HylianNightmare]

Easily

[BigTicket]

If you only look at pure scoring ability, Durant is the 2nd best wing ever ahead of both Lebron and Kobe, but he is obviously not as good as them at other things.

[Roundball_Rock]

And none of those compare to the grueling defenses that LeBron had to go through in the East

06 & 07 Pistons
08-12 Celtics
11 & 12 Bulls
13 & 14 Pacers

Yeah, logically his playoff stats would increase in the West because: 1) he would face weaker defenses 2) his teams wouldn't go as far. The deeper you go in the playoffs, the stronger the quality of defenses as well as the defensive intensity (teams will play harder in the ECF than the 1st round in a 2/7 series). If some of those finals trips turn into 2nd round losses that would boost his stats.

In another thread I looked at a HOF player's scoring in the 1st round and then after that round in the only prime years he made it out the first round (five playoff runs). He averaged 26.0 in the 1st round but slipped to 21.6 PPG as the series, defenses got bigger after that. That's an example of how stats could be inflated by losing earlier. All "playoffs" isn't equal...