Where Do You Rank Carmelo All-time?

[Roundball_Rock]

Here is his resume for reference:

10x all-star
6x all-NBA (2 second teams, 4 third teams)
Third in MVP in 13', two top 10 MVP finishes
13' scoring champ.

25/7/3 from 07'-17'. He was an elite scorer--1st in scoring 1x, 2nd 2x, third 2x.

His team success was poor--but the Nuggets did make the WCF in 09' and the Knicks got to Game 7 of the ECSF in 12', as high water marks for him.

Advanced stats do not like him. He has two top 20 BPM seasons (10th, 12th) and three top 20 VORP seasons (7th, 13th, 19th).

A related question: if he wins a ring as Portland's third option (obviously extremely unlikely) does that move him up at all in your eyes?

[HylianNightmare]

If Portland wins he rockets up

[Roundball_Rock]

If Portland wins he rockets up

I see what you did there.

[WhiteKyrie]

Higher than Pippen

[Roundball_Rock]

Higher than Pippen

Obviously that is a given for MJ stans since Pippen and LeBron are the WOAT's. MJ still 1-9, doe.

[Smoke117]

Not high enough to bother thinking about it.

[Marchesk]

Would be higher up if Pistons had drafted him. Should also have a ROTY award.

[Lion's pride]

I have Melo as one of the most overrated players in history despite some good individual accolades..

[Roundball_Rock]

He is top 100 at minimum. Slam had him at #95 in their top 100 in 2018.

[kawhileonard2]

He is top 100 at minimum. Slam had him at #95 in their top 100 in 2018.

That seems really low.

[Roundball_Rock]

That seems really low.

Where would you put him? ESPN only listed the top 74 but he didn't make it. Gilmore, Mutumbo, Lillard, Lanier, Parker were 74-70 (in that order), for some context.

[ralph_i_el]

There are a lot of guys in history who were just scorers that don't get remembered by casual fans. I think Melo will be remembered. Players respect him a lot. He might not have great team success, but for about 10 years he was guaranteed to take you to the postseason if he was healthy, purely because he raised the floor of an offense so much. When in doubt, you could always dump it to Melo.

He didn't try to chase rings or team up with stars. He had no chance in the era of his prime. Go watch that '09 Nuggets team in the playoffs (a ton of their full games are on YouTube). Melo could just focus on being a scoring machine as part of a team that was really led by Chauncey Billups. It was a fun team that covered all the bases of what a "Great" team needed, and Melo fit right in.

"Guy who can score 1-on-1 on demand" is a role, but we rarely talk about those guys as role players (unless they are a 6th man). There's a lot of pressure for players like that to be leaders....but why? Melo was at his best when he was part of a well rounded team, and he was just asked to score from all levels and in all manners. Spot up, off the dribble, driving, or in the post, Melo had it. Why can't he just be a great scorer, and not a disappointment? Why did we put that pressure on him in the first place?

[SouBeachTalents]

Definitely not high enough to put a specific number on it. Off the top of my head if I had to say, maybe top 70

[HBK_Kliq_2]

I would say he's close to Pau Gasol ranking 60-70 range.

[Phoenix]

If not for that odd transition between New York and Portland( as far as the OKC season and Rockets failed experiment), I think ESPN may have put him in the most recent top 74. It's like said above, at the point he is you're not putting a ton of thought into a specific range. I think top 70 is about right.